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[09:01:42] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: MMUSIC @ IETF 89
[09:01:43] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Note Well
[09:01:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Administrativia
[09:01:52] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Agenda Overview - Thursday
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[09:03:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> just FYI, this MMUSIC session is streamed via Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf89/mmusic
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[09:03:39] <Jonathan Lennox> Test
[09:04:11] <Jonathan Lennox> Oh good, jabber.org is working
[09:04:18] <Lorenzo Miniero> :)
[09:04:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentation stopped
[09:05:02] <Jonathan Lennox> I will Jabber relay.
[09:05:03] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: BUNDLE    
 
[09:05:09] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Christer Holmberg
[09:05:09] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: BUNDLE    
 
[09:05:43] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: (2)    
 PREVIOUS    
 DECISIONS    
 
[09:06:20] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: (3)    
 QUESTIONS    
 FOR    
 TODAY    
 
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[09:07:57] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: (4)    
 Q9    
 
[09:10:06] <Jonathan Lennox> Cullen Jennings at the mic
[09:10:44] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: (5)    
 Q13    
 
[09:10:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: (4)    
 Q9    
 
[09:11:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: (5)    
 Q13    
 
[09:12:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: (6)    
 Q13    
 (Example)    
 
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[09:13:30] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
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[09:16:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: (5)    
 Q13    
 
[09:17:53] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: (6)    
 Q13    
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[09:23:44] <Jonathan Lennox> Oh good, no Jabber requests while I was in the mic line
[09:24:00] <Jonathan Lennox> Cullen Jennings at the mic
[09:26:08] <Jonathan Lennox> EKR at the mic
[09:27:48] <Jonathan Lennox> Colin Perkins at the mic
[09:27:56] <Jonathan Lennox> Magnus Westerlund at the mic
[09:28:30] <Jonathan Lennox> Justin Uberti at the mic
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[09:29:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: (5)    
 Q13    
 
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[09:30:45] <Jonathan Lennox> Adam Roach
[09:30:50] <Jonathan Lennox> Bernard Aboba
[09:32:02] <Jonathan Lennox> Colin Perkins
[09:32:15] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: (6)    
 Q13    
 (Example)    
 
[09:32:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: (7)    
 Q12    
 
[09:37:38] <Jonathan Lennox> Colin Perkins; Paul Kyzviat at the mic
[09:37:52] <Jonathan Lennox> previously
[09:41:02] <Jonathan Lennox> Cullen Jennings
[09:41:04] <Jonathan Lennox> Magnus Westerlund
[09:43:48] <Jonathan Lennox> Paul Kyzviat
[09:43:51] <Jonathan Lennox> Harald Alvestrand
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[09:46:43] <Jonathan Lennox> Magnus Westerlund
[09:48:21] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: (8)    
 NEXT    
 STEPS    
  •  IMPLE
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[09:49:13] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: THE    
 END    
 
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[09:49:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: SDP    
 A
[09:50:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Suhas Nandakumar
[09:50:01] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: SDP    
 A
[09:50:03] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Updates    
 Summary    
 
[09:50:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Q1    
 –    
 IMS    
 A4ributes    
 for
[09:51:58] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Q2    
 –    
 SDP    
 Source    
 Filter
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[09:52:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: MulRplexing    
 Streams    
 with    
 DSC
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[09:54:30] <Jonathan Lennox> Paul Kyzviat at the mic
[09:54:50] <Jonathan Lennox> Justin Uberti
[09:55:07] <Jonathan Lennox> Cullen Jennings
[09:55:34] <Jonathan Lennox> Magnus Westerlund
[09:56:52] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Dealing    
 with    
 EncapsulaRng    
 A4
[09:57:49] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: INHERIT    
 Example    
 
[10:00:29] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: Next    
 Steps    
 
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[10:01:55] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: MSID status
[10:02:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Harald Alvestrand
[10:02:01] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: MSID status
[10:02:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: 2: Changes since last time
[10:03:15] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: 3: * notation
[10:03:44] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: 2: Changes since last time
[10:03:56] <Jonathan Lennox> Martin Thomson at the draft
[10:04:09] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: 3: * notation
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[10:04:19] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: 2: Changes since last time
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[10:04:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: 3: * notation
[10:04:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: 2: Changes since last time
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[10:07:18] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: 3: * notation
[10:07:19] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: 4: MSID-control
[10:08:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: 5: Example SDP
[10:10:19] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: 6: Why not use sendonly?
[10:11:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: 5: Example SDP
[10:12:20] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: 6: Why not use sendonly?
[10:12:21] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: 7: Adiafora - flip a coin
[10:19:13] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: 6: Why not use sendonly?
[10:21:05] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: 8: Other matters
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[10:27:05] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: The Session Description Protocol (SDP) A
[10:27:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Roni Even
[10:27:11] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: The Session Description Protocol (SDP) A
[10:27:15] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Introduction
[10:28:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Application token
[10:30:21] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Application token: SDP syntax
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[10:52:05] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Application token: Bundled example
[10:52:06] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Application token: SVC with FEC example
[10:55:55] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentation stopped
[10:56:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1:
[10:56:15] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Salvatore Loreto
[10:56:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1:
[10:57:06] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2:
[10:58:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3:
[10:58:33] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: sctmap Attribute
[10:58:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> *sctpmap sorry
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[11:02:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: app parameter
[11:03:34] <jesup> mic: maximum number of streams is set to a large number per IETF 88.   Please check the notes and verify
[11:04:39] <jesup> is someone relaying?
[11:05:01] <Lorenzo Miniero> I see Jonathan in line, I'm not sure whether he has something to say himself or if he's going to relay you
[11:05:07] <Cullen Jennings> will relay
[11:05:07] <jesup> ok, thanks
[11:05:47] <Cullen Jennings> i'm 5th in line
[11:06:15] <jesup> mic: I'm ok with either enforcing it as 64K or 64K-1, or forcing it to 64K when used in WebRTC via this SDP param
[11:07:51] <Cullen Jennings> just about at mic
[11:08:02] <Cullen Jennings> so type fast :-)
[11:08:44] <jesup> mic: I argued for max datachannels in IETF 88 but lost that argument.  Perhaps non-webrtc have different ideas - if so justify
[11:08:51] <jesup> done
[11:09:03] <Cullen Jennings> lat one
[11:09:14] <jesup> all
[11:09:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: streams parameter
[11:10:18] <Lorenzo Miniero> (for remotes, the slide deck by Salvatore has just changed, and is now available on the materials page: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-mmusic-11.pdf )
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[11:15:38] <jesup> drop
[11:16:06] <jesup> remove
[11:16:07] <Maire Reavy> remove
[11:16:49] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: app parameter
[11:18:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: Using Partial Offers and Partial Answers
[11:18:27] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Adam Roach
[11:18:27] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: Using Partial Offers and Partial Answers
[11:18:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Changes since pof-pan-01
[11:19:44] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Changes since pof-pan-01 (cont)
[11:20:58] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: One Open Issue in Draft
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[11:29:31] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Proposed Change 1: State Model
[11:29:32] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Proposed Change 2: Separate BUNDLE behav
[11:29:34] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Proposed Change 3: Fix some terminology
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[11:29:37] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: Group ID Mechanism, overview
[11:29:39] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: Open Issue: SDP Attribute Ordering
[11:29:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: SDP Attribute Ordering, cont
[11:29:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 11: Proposal: Option 1
[11:29:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 12: Next Steps
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