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bclaise has set the subject to: NETCONF meeting at IETF-95
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[06:20:14] <Mikael Abrahamsson> I'll be jabber scribe.
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[06:23:24] <Dan Romascanu> thanks, Mikael
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[07:23:39] <Balazs Lengyel> I want sequence numbers
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[07:39:52] <Martin Bjorklund> the draft needs to be adopted by the wg first...
[07:40:02] <Mikael Abrahamsson> martin: do you want that relayed?
[07:40:09] <Martin Bjorklund> yes
[07:40:16] <Mikael Abrahamsson> Dean Bogdanovic at mic
[07:40:21] <Martin Bjorklund> I'll use mic: the next time
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[07:41:38] <Mikael Abrahamsson> ok, Andy kept talking... soon it will bi Lada
[07:41:43] <Mikael Abrahamsson> be
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[07:47:23] <Mikael Abrahamsson> Ashesh Misha (?)
[07:47:39] <Martin Bjorklund> mic: nacm does authorizaition only
[07:47:45] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> Accounting does not belong into NACM. Someone to write a separate I-D.
[07:47:56] <Martin Bjorklund> mic: authentication is done elesehwre
[07:48:07] <Martin Bjorklund> mic: accouting should not be done in NACM
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[07:48:56] <Martin Bjorklund> mic: no I'm not against
[07:49:01] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> Against putting it into NACM.
[07:49:04] <Martin Bjorklund> mic: just not in nacm document
[07:49:13] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> Write a separate I-D.
[07:49:16] <Mikael Abrahamsson> Dean Bogdanovic at mic
[07:49:18] <Martin Bjorklund> exactly
[07:49:27] <Balazs Lengyel> Accounting should be in a separate draft
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[08:04:40] <Mikael Abrahamsson> Rick Taylor at mic
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[08:20:25] <Martin> there is a small bug on the picture - operational-state conatains cf (config false) as well
[08:20:38] <Martin> ok, jason already said this
[08:22:30] <Martin> support
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[08:27:24] <Mikael Abrahamsson> Ashesh Misha (?)
[08:27:40] <Martin> mic: leave get-config as it is, add get-data w/ new optiones for returning meta-data
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[08:29:21] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> <get> has a certain definition, you can't change it to mean <get-data>.
[08:29:37] <Martin> I agree w/ juergen
[08:29:46] <Martin> it would break clients
[08:31:27] <Martin> if we depreacte get, servers will decide if they still implement it or not.  some will still support it.
[08:32:05] <Martin> (sorry, all this should go to mic)
[08:32:45] <Mikael Abrahamsson> ok, I will, there is a line, I'll get in on it
[08:32:52] <Martin> thanks
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[08:35:01] <Mikael Abrahamsson> Rick Taylor at mic
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[08:38:09] <Martin> mic: @andy get works fine w/ foo and foo-state
[08:38:25] <Martin> mic: but not with single- tree data models
[08:39:52] <Balazs Lengyel> On which datastore do rpcs and actions operate. Any rule?
[08:40:06] <Mikael Abrahamsson> Sue Hares at mic
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[08:43:05] <Martin> mic: RC obviously doesn't have all NC features, e.g. candidate, confirmed-commit, lock...
[08:43:19] <Martin> ok, never mind
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[08:51:26] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> Thanks Mikael for being our Jabber scribe. (The rest is likely just political layer discussion.)
[08:52:08] <Mikael Abrahamsson> no problem! I have to leave, so ... have fun with the political discussion :)
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[08:54:51] <Dan Romascanu> thanks, Mikael!
[08:57:36] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> This is true entertainment...
[08:57:56] <Martin> did mehmet say that any individual has veto?
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