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[02:23:20] <Lou Berger> could you all hear Rob
[02:24:20] <Andy Bierman> mic: #1 is OK but just .yang, not .yin; this is familiar format even though .yang is not needed
[02:25:04] <Andy Bierman> #2 OK also
[02:25:20] <Martin Björklund> I prefer #2
[02:25:44] <Kent Watsen> I prefer #2 as well (as contributor)
[02:26:07] <Kent Watsen> and Martin says #2 as well
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[03:05:45] <Martin Björklund> is this b/c we don't trust the revision-date or -label?
[03:06:03] <Martin Björklund> this == module checksum
[03:06:08] <Lou Berger> thanks
[03:06:24] <Lou Berger> assumed that
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[03:08:16] <Kent Watsen> extraction from XML (not plain-text) is lossless (as contributor)
[03:08:53] <Lou Berger> will make comment at end of this slide
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[03:09:51] <Martin Björklund> actually, with the new RFC text format (non-paged), it is lossless also for text
[03:11:07] <Reshad Rahman> But RFCs aren't the only source of YANG we care about?
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[03:39:50] <Martin Björklund> why a different mechanism for NC?  why not use the same mechansim as for RC?
[03:41:24] <Martin Björklund> config false data instead of spceial protocol capability
[03:41:43] <Reshad Rahman> Martin, do you mean have a different solution (from what's currently in the doc)?
[03:41:46] <Martin Björklund> i.e., why not use config false data instead of spceial protocol capability
[03:42:14] <Martin Björklund> I thought RC was using a config false tree?  perhaps I'm mistaken...
[03:44:30] <Lou Berger> Martin can this be addressed after adoption
[03:44:37] <Martin Björklund> i don't think that optimization is necessary.  compare w/ hello vs yang-lib for modules.  an additional rps isn't a big deal
[03:45:02] <Martin Björklund> actually, there are other problems with this solution...
[03:45:14] <Martin Björklund> so I'm not sure abot adoption...
[03:45:32] <Lou Berger> thanks
[03:45:34] <Martin Björklund> it changes some fundamental aspects of the protocol
[03:52:18] <Martin Björklund> I have string objections on this draft (schema selection, that is)
[03:52:25] <Martin Björklund> s/string/strong/
[03:52:32] <Martin Björklund> I
[03:52:35] <Lou Berger> that was on previous version, correct
[03:52:39] <Martin Björklund> I will send to the list
[03:52:41] <Lou Berger> previous draft
[03:53:05] <Lou Berger> thank you! Do you object to adoption or can live with addressing post adoption?
[03:53:34] <Martin Björklund> object to adoption of that draft only
[03:54:02] <Lou Berger> ack - I'll 'channel' this discussion when we discuss adoption
[03:54:26] <Lou Berger> will you be attending the second session?
[03:54:31] <Martin Björklund> yes
[03:55:16] <Lou Berger> great, would prefer to discuss adoption in 1st 10 min of next session rather than runs somthing now in 1 min
[03:55:25] <Martin Björklund> ok
[03:55:57] <Lou Berger> s/runs/rush
[03:56:08] <Reshad Rahman> I won't be attending next session, but design team is well represented...
[03:56:28] <Lou Berger> thanks rashad, appreciate you making this session
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[07:22:49] <Martin Björklund> when you start:
[07:22:52] <Martin Björklund> clarifying q: is it correct that the ver-selection doesn't change anything for a client that doesn't use <select-schema-set>? also, after a successful <select-schema-set>, will a <get> on yang-library be different (reflect the new schema set)?
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[07:25:13] <Georgios PAPADOPOULOS> Welcome to LPWAN!
[07:25:36] <Mahesh Jethanandani> This in NETMOD.
[07:25:57] <Georgios PAPADOPOULOS> oops, thanks
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[07:33:23] <Martin Björklund> all nodes are optional anyway
[07:35:22] <Martin Björklund> audio here is fine
[07:35:53] <Timothy Carey> We typically allow for seconds from or a datetime
[07:36:05] <Timothy Carey> It works for IoT and other devices
[07:36:21] <Timothy Carey> Make it either/or
[07:36:21] <Martin Björklund> make a choice?
[07:36:39] <Timothy Carey> Yes a choice is what I meant
[07:52:43] <danielking.net> Igor, are you awake :-) Do you have any comments on draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-04 <https://www.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-04>?
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[07:53:17] <danielking.net> As an author of draft-bryskin-netconf-automation-yang <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bryskin-netconf-automation-yang-03>
[07:53:21] <Igor Bryskin> Good progress
[07:53:41] <Igor Bryskin> Agree with Xufeng
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[08:30:54] <Martin Björklund> aha, so it is aglobal thign for all clients?
[08:31:15] <Martin Björklund> select changes the global server state
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[08:33:06] <Martin Björklund> yes
[08:33:48] <Lou Berger> yes for concerns?
[08:33:59] <Martin Björklund> concern: schema-selection seems really complex
[08:34:13] <Martin Björklund> lou, no the yes was "right direction"
[08:34:34] <Lou Berger> thanks
[08:35:34] <Andy Bierman> +1 to concerns about complexity
[08:37:03] <Martin Björklund> note: complexity in version-selection
[08:37:11] <Martin Björklund> not in all other drfats
[08:37:37] <Lou Berger> that's how I read Chris' comment as well, but may have been wrong
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[08:41:52] <Martin Björklund> third q: adopt a subset of the draft
[08:41:57] <Martin Björklund> drafts
[08:42:52] <Martin Björklund> that's what I support anyway :)
[08:43:08] <Martin Björklund> seriously - why ?
[08:43:36] <Martin Björklund> i.e. why all or nothing?
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[08:50:10] <Martin Björklund> Or move forward with the netconf draft, and start a new generic draft for this in netmod
[08:51:23] <Martin Björklund> audio disappeared.... out of time I guess
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[08:51:33] <Meetecho> Martin Björklund: nope, audio streamer died...
[08:51:37] <Meetecho> Sorry, restoring it
[08:51:44] <Meetecho> Session is up until it's over
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[08:51:51] <Lou Berger> thanks all!
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[08:52:04] <Martin Björklund> ok.  but now it *is* over :)
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[08:52:25] <Meetecho> :D
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