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[17:33:00] <joel jaeggli> network requirements bof agenda and note well
[17:33:04] <Martin Thomson> wow, that is not a sequence of characters I would routinely type
[17:33:10] <Martin Thomson> netrqmts
[17:33:28] <joel jaeggli> russ and karen chairing
[17:33:54] <joel jaeggli> first presentation karen odonoghue presenting - how we got here
[17:34:37] <Jim Martin> Yes, thank you Karen!
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[17:42:39] <joel jaeggli> russ housley speaking
[17:42:55] <joel jaeggli> next presentation warren kumari
[17:43:05] <joel jaeggli> the ietf network
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[18:00:28] <Jim Martin> [MIC] How do you get the circuits?
[18:00:43] <Meetecho> Mic is turned off?
[18:01:09] <Jim Martin> Agreed, can't hear Jared.
[18:01:20] <Karen O'Donoghue> can you hear him now?
[18:01:36] <Karen O'Donoghue> @Jim… you can get in the virtual queue if you want…
[18:02:24] <Jim Martin> I am
[18:03:26] <joel jaeggli> jim martin remote speaking
[18:03:57] <joel jaeggli> glen deen speaking
[18:04:01] <Jim Martin> We can't hear the mic
[18:04:08] <Meetecho> Notified the AV team about that
[18:04:20] <Meetecho> Looks like both mic lines aren't working
[18:04:26] <Jim Martin> In the mean time, can the moderater repeat the question?
[18:04:29] <joel jaeggli> marco ripe
[18:05:01] <joel jaeggli> jason livinggood - comcast
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[18:06:37] <Jim Martin> Audio fixed.
[18:06:39] <Jim Martin> Thanks
[18:06:49] <Meetecho> (y)
[18:07:01] <Meetecho> PS: Hi jim! :)
[18:09:44] <joel jaeggli> colin jennings was speaking
[18:09:59] <joel jaeggli> glenn deen
[18:10:56] <joel jaeggli> jared mauch
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[18:13:59] <joel jaeggli> oops no
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[18:15:08] <Jim Martin> Go Karen!
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[18:17:21] <joel jaeggli> hum if you want a network
[18:17:27] <joel jaeggli> some
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[18:24:25] <Alessandro Amirante> Mic: tu answer Cullen's comment, I do agree that remote participation *clients* can work easily around NATs. Here at the IETF we deploy remote participation *servers* at the venue in order to minimize the delay and make it effective. And having a WebRTC server behind a NAT is far from ideal IMHO.
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[18:29:17] <Cullen Jennings> Alessandro - thanks - makes sense. I do think we could deploy them on a nearby cloud and thought the latency on one leg would go up, the other leg might go down and the total increases of latency would be less than say 15 ms
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[18:29:39] <joel jaeggli> jim martin
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[18:38:18] <joel jaeggli> karen
[18:39:07] <joel jaeggli> russ
[18:39:17] <Alessandro Amirante> Cullen: yes that could be done. OTOH, feeding the servers with audio and video from the meeting rooms via LAN is still better I think. I won't feel that comfortable doing that via some "regular" hotel Internet connection
[18:39:20] <joel jaeggli> karen
[18:40:11] <joel jaeggli> hum over expectation
[18:40:29] <joel jaeggli> martin thomson
[18:40:50] <joel jaeggli> alissa cooper
[18:41:39] <joel jaeggli> jared mauch
[18:42:57] <joel jaeggli> glenn deen
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[18:46:01] <joel jaeggli> glenn deen
[18:46:26] <joel jaeggli> lars eggert
[18:50:25] <Cullen Jennings> Alessando - Yes, given we have public IPs, I agree how you are doing this sounds like a good plan. I suspect that if we had a v6 firewall that blocked incoming flow, we could still come up with a plan that provided a good experience.
[18:50:40] <Cullen Jennings> And thank you for providing that background, really good to know.
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[18:53:58] <Alessandro Amirante> Cullen: my pleasure :)
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[19:09:11] <joel jaeggli> jason livinggood
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[19:25:15] <joel jaeggli> what's next
[19:25:34] <joel jaeggli> karen o speaking
[19:26:18] <joel jaeggli> lucy lynch
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[19:27:12] <joel jaeggli> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netrqmts
[19:27:19] <joel jaeggli> is the mailing list
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