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Tuesday, 15 November 2011< ^ >
stpeter has set the subject to: PAWS WG | http://tools.ietf.org/wg/paws/ | IETF 81: audio at http://ietf81streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf/ietf802.m3u and slides at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/81/materials.html#wg-paws
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[00:50:15] <Tobia Castaldi> test
[00:52:54] <Tobia Castaldi> please wait... Meetecho audio will be available in a few minutes
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[00:55:30] <Tobia Castaldi> ok... the audio session is on :)
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[00:55:56] <MeetechoAudio> Is the volume ok?
[00:56:50] <Tobia Castaldi> wait
[00:56:56] <Scott Probasco> I don't hear anything.
[00:57:06] <Tobia Castaldi> ok
[00:57:09] <Tobia Castaldi> perfect
[00:57:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> the audio is fine
[00:58:15] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: PAWS
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[01:05:45] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: NOTE WELL
[01:05:52] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Agenda
[01:07:04] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Document Status
[01:09:44] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Deliverables
[01:10:33] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Co-existence in-scope/out of scope discu
[01:10:40] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Agenda
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[01:11:23] <Tobia Castaldi> new presentation
[01:11:25] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: ??
[01:11:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2
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[01:12:27] <Tobia Castaldi> remote participants: can you understand audio?
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[01:12:57] <Scott Probasco> it is a bit fuzzy
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[01:13:29] <Tobia Castaldi> ok...
[01:13:36] <Tobia Castaldi> we will fix it
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[01:13:43] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3
[01:13:44] <Scott Probasco> thanks
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[01:15:59] <Tobia Castaldi> it's better now?
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[01:17:05] <Scott Probasco> not yet...
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[01:18:44] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 4
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[01:20:20] <Lorenzo Miniero> the audio sound better to me
[01:20:27] <Tobia Castaldi> ;)
[01:20:39] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 6
[01:21:07] <psa> Lorenzo Miniero: yeah we had problems with the microphone
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[01:21:53] <Lorenzo Miniero> yes what I meant is that it sounds much better than before, thanks :)
[01:21:54] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 8
[01:23:24] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 9
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[01:26:02] <Tobia Castaldi> subir das at mic
[01:29:32] <Tobia Castaldi> zhu lei at mic
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[01:36:51] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 14
[01:38:04] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 15
[01:38:11] <Tobia Castaldi> mobility in white space
[01:39:33] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 16
[01:39:43] <Tobia Castaldi> Indoor networking use case
[01:39:53] <Tobia Castaldi> new presenter
[01:42:35] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 17
[01:42:47] <Tobia Castaldi> machine to machine use case
[01:43:03] <Raj> New presenter is Juan Carlos Zuniga
[01:45:00] <Tobia Castaldi> thanks Raj :)
[01:45:54] <Tobia Castaldi> raj at mic
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[01:47:07] <Jesse Caulfield> cannot hear the speaker
[01:47:58] <Lorenzo Miniero> Jesse the audio is fine
[01:48:05] <Lorenzo Miniero> can't you hear this speaker or no audio at all?
[01:48:23] <Jesse Caulfield> no - questioner was too far from the microphone - no worries
[01:48:29] <Tobia Castaldi> I think Jesse isn't connected to Meetecho Audio
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[01:52:58] <Scott Probasco> I believe this use case directly addresses Ofcom ideas for slave-to-slave requirements, section 3.27 in Ofcom "implementing geolocation"
[01:53:50] <Tobia Castaldi> John malyar
[01:54:13] <Tobia Castaldi> Raj again
[01:55:14] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 12
[01:56:39] <Tobia Castaldi> Peter McCann
[01:56:39] <psa> who is speaking?
[01:56:42] <psa> ah ok
[01:56:43] <psa> thanks
[01:57:22] <Tobia Castaldi> brian now
[01:58:53] <Scott Probasco> FCC requires registration, 47 CFR subpart H 15.713 e 1
[01:59:53] <psa> that was Hannes Tschofenig at the mic
[02:00:18] <Tobia Castaldi> Zhu Lei at mic
[02:01:12] <Tobia Castaldi> slide 18
[02:04:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Peter mccann
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[02:05:28] <Scott Probasco> See step 7 in section 4.3 for information on slave registration with database
[02:05:40] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: White Space requirements
[02:05:59] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Requirements grouping
[02:06:29] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Data model Requirements – location spe
[02:06:46] <Tobia Castaldi> ...cific (1/4)
[02:08:09] <psa> I noted that the slides say "Quebec City" -- you might want to update that and ask the chairs to upload revised slides for the record :)
[02:08:26] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Data model Requirements – location spe
[02:08:36] <Tobia Castaldi> 2/4
[02:10:27] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: • D.7: The Data Model MUST support spe
[02:15:30] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Data model Requirements – location spe
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[02:17:56] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Data model Requirements – location spe
[02:18:00] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: • D.7: The Data Model MUST support spe
[02:21:07] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Data model Requirements – location spe
[02:21:22] <Scott Probasco> Disagree to limit the number of points, at least at this time. This does not support FCC use case.
[02:22:17] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: • D.7: The Data Model MUST support spe
[02:24:18] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Data model Requirements – location spe
[02:24:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: • D.7: The Data Model MUST support spe
[02:25:07] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Data model Requirements – location spe
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[02:29:55] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: Radiation parameters requirements in -01
[02:30:04] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: Replace radiation parameter requirements
[02:30:25] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Transmitter identifier requirements
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[02:31:16] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: Other Data Model Requirements
[02:31:51] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: Protocol Requirements - Discovery
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[02:32:19] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: Protocol Requirements – Discovery
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[02:36:47] <Jesse Caulfield> who is talking?
[02:36:58] <Tobia Castaldi> joel
[02:37:05] <Tobia Castaldi> halpern
[02:37:35] <Tobia Castaldi> juan carlos zuniga at mic now
[02:37:55] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: Protocol Requirements – security speci
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[02:40:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 14: Protocol Requirements: supporting PUSH o
[02:40:58] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 15: Other protocol requirements
[02:41:00] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 16: This should be an operational requiremen
[02:41:06] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 17: Operational Requirements
[02:41:30] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 18: Operational Requirements
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[02:43:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: 802.22 database interface model
[02:44:51] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (1)
[02:46:00] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (2)
[02:47:09] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (4) RF Mask Para
[02:48:55] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (5)
[02:50:58] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (6)
[02:52:23] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (7)
[02:54:01] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 14: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (8)
[02:54:06] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 15: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (8)
[02:55:59] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 16: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (9)
[02:56:15] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 17: DATA MODEL REQUIREMENTS (10)
[02:56:52] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 20: PROTOCOL REQUIREMENTS (2)
[02:56:55] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 19: PROTOCOL REQUIREMENTS (1)
[02:57:29] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 20: PROTOCOL REQUIREMENTS (2)
[02:58:39] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 22: OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS (1) [AMENDED] O
[02:58:49] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 24: OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS (3)
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[02:59:48] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Disclosure: Public
[03:00:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Format for White Space Messaging (WSM)
[03:03:41] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: WSIF Object Model Hierarchy
[03:08:01] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Format for White Space Messaging (WSM)
[03:09:11] <Jesse Caulfield> i seem to have dropped the call
[03:09:31] <Tobia Castaldi> can you hear us?
[03:09:36] <Jesse Caulfield> yes now
[03:09:39] <Tobia Castaldi> ok
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[03:11:03] <Tobia Castaldi> try using our audio call
[03:11:58] <psa> we're talking about https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-caufield-paws-protocol-for-tvws/ right?
[03:13:23] <Jesse Caulfield> yes
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[03:16:23] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: PAWS WG IETF-82
[03:16:32] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Outline
[03:16:44] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Introduction
[03:17:03] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Protocol Layer
[03:17:20] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Protocol Features/Functionalities
[03:17:26] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Protocol Layer
[03:18:27] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Protocol Features/Functionalities
[03:19:20] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Device Bootstrapping
[03:22:42] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: INT-REQ Message Format
[03:23:03] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: INT-RESP Message Format
[03:23:19] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Device Registration
[03:23:38] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: REG-REQ Message Format
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[03:23:55] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: REG-RESP Message Format
[03:23:59] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: Querying the Database
[03:24:06] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: AVAIL-CHAN-REQ Message Format
[03:24:47] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 14: AVAIL-CHAN-RESP Message Format
[03:25:12] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 15: Device Validation
[03:25:23] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 16: DEV-VALID-REQ Message Format
[03:25:28] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 14: AVAIL-CHAN-RESP Message Format
[03:25:32] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 18: Encoding Considerations
[03:25:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 19: Security Considerations
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[03:29:02] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Co-existence in-scope/out of scope discu
[03:29:42] <Jesse Caulfield> support adding coexistence consideration after 802.19
[03:32:57] <Tobia Castaldi> bye
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[03:35:58] <Tobia Castaldi> The recordings of this session will be available at http://www.ietf.org/meeting/82/remote-participation.html#Meetecho
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