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Dan York has set the subject to: Plenary @ IETF 89
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[21:10:16] <Eric Burger> Do we have audio?
[21:11:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> not yet
[21:11:12] <Lorenzo Miniero> working on it
[21:11:26] <Eric Burger> OK. That explains the digital silence I'm listening to :-)
[21:12:25] <Eric Burger> That's better.
[21:12:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> it's on now
[21:12:51] <Eric Burger> Well, I hear babbling, but no one really speaking. If there is someone speaking, the gain is WAY too low.
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[21:13:28] <bortzmeyer> Noone speaks yet (we're late)
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[21:14:40] <Eric Burger> Audio really VERY low
[21:14:47] <bortzmeyer> Russ Housley starts speaking
[21:14:53] <Eric Burger> (I'm on the RTSP stream)
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[21:15:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: IAB Chair Report
[21:15:03] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Highlights Since IETF 89
[21:15:04] <Eric Burger> I hear Russ buzzing.
[21:15:09] <mrex-ietf> the audio stream on channel 2 is completely distorted
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[21:15:09] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Russ Housley
[21:15:09] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Highlights Since IETF 89
[21:15:19] <SM> Why is teh IAB chair buzzing?:)
[21:15:20] <Eric Burger> Cannot understand a word he is buzzing.
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[21:15:40] <Lorenzo Miniero> working on a fix, hold on :)
[21:15:51] <mrex-ietf> (amplifier is set too high, extreme clipping of audio)
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[21:17:23] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Highlights Since IETF 89
[21:17:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Document Status
[21:17:31] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Ongoing Appointments
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[21:18:33] <Lorenzo Miniero> audio should be better now
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[21:18:36] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Highlights from IAB Retreat
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[21:18:56] <bje> audio is badly broken for me here - sounds like it’s clipping at the mic
[21:19:21] <kaduk> The youtube version is fine, but yes.
[21:19:37] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: IAB Programs
[21:19:43] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: About the IAB
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[21:19:52] <bje> where is the youtube link?
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[21:20:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Lars Eggert
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[21:20:21] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: IRTF Meetings this week
[21:20:26] <kaduk> www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKYLKvk_AIW <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKYLKvk_AIW>
[21:20:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> just FYI, a Meetecho room with integrated slides and audio+video is available http://www.meetecho.com/ietf90/tech_plenary
[21:20:49] <bje> “This video is unavailable.”
[21:21:12] <kaduk> Hmm, maybe I typo'd the URL.
[21:21:13] <bje> audio just cleared up significantly
[21:21:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Research Group Status
[21:21:56] <Lorenzo Miniero> *3 sorry
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[21:22:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: IRTF Stream RFC Publications
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[21:23:04] <mrex-ietf> the audio distortion problem is not as bad as it was, but still significant
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[21:23:15] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: IRTF RFC Publications since IETF89
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[21:23:37] <mrex-ietf> youtube refuses to serve IETF live stream to germany
[21:23:48] <kaduk> Bummer.
[21:23:56] <Melinda Shore> Youtube refuses to serve any live stream to Germany.
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[21:24:13] <Lorenzo Miniero> mrex-ietf isthe Meetecho audio the one broken for you?
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[21:24:40] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Applied Networking Research Prize
[21:24:41] <kaduk> Okay, this youtube URL looks better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKYLKvk_AIw
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[21:25:09] <kaduk> (my jabber client and web browser were separated by a VM boundary, so I could not copy/paste the first one)
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[21:25:18] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: RSE Report
[21:25:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Heather Flanagan
[21:25:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: RSE Report
[21:25:31] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: RFC Production Center SLA update
[21:25:33] <bje> youtube audio is definitely better
[21:26:10] <Eric Burger> YouTube has better audio, but like a minute delay ;-(
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[21:26:41] <mrex-ietf> but youtube runs on a standard port, so I can use the company network to route around the "country restriction" ... :)
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[21:27:27] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Monthly Queue
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[21:28:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Queue Movement
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[21:28:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: RPC PROCESSING TIMES
[21:28:57] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: RFC Format
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[21:29:42] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Style Guide
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[21:30:46] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: Digital Object Identifiers (DOIs)
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[21:31:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: RSE Avenues of Communication
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[21:32:18] Dan York has set the subject to: Plenary @ IETF 90
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[21:33:53] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: IETF 90 Technical Plenary, Toronto, ON,
[21:34:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Andrew Sullivan
[21:34:01] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: IETF 90 Technical Plenary, Toronto, ON,
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[21:36:46] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: IXmaps.ca !
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[21:36:55] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Antinio Gamba
[21:36:55] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: IXmaps.ca !
[21:36:59] <Andrew Clement> Sound??
[21:37:04] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Antonio Gamba
[21:37:05] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: IXmaps.ca !
[21:37:21] <Eric Burger> audio?
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[21:37:28] <Lorenzo Miniero> looking into that right now
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[21:37:39] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: IXmaps ??? Internet Exchange mapping!
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[21:38:57] <Steven Bibby> Alternate audio (few seconds delay) - http://ietf90streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf/ietf902.m3u
[21:39:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: 3
[21:39:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> Showing a video right now
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[21:41:11] <mrex-ietf> and the internet has a central backup in Utah (but so far, they seem unwilling to give you back your data that they backup...)
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[21:41:30] <kaduk> Nobody ever said it was a "restore" service
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[21:43:32] <mrex-ietf> and when the NSA backup pipe stalls, the regular delivery is slowed so that no "un-backuped" data gets delivered ...
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[21:44:30] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Notable results/implications???
[21:44:33] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Current development???
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[21:46:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: See where your packets go!
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[21:46:53] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: Internet Society (ISOC): Internet Exchan
[21:46:55] <Andrew Clement> tanks fro youtube option, but audio appears to be long delayed.
[21:46:58] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Jane Coffin
[21:46:59] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: Internet Society (ISOC): Internet Exchan
[21:47:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: What is an IXP
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[21:48:25] <Lorenzo Miniero> audio should be ok now
[21:48:58] <mrex-ietf> youtube provides both, audio and video.  Delay is huge (like half a minute maybe), but the video quality and ease-of-use is magnitudes better than meetecho
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[21:49:52] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 11: Measuring the Bene???ts and Impacts of I
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[21:50:37] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 12: LAC IXP Study| November 2013
[21:52:06] <Thiago Marinello> In http://ptt.br you can see graphics of usage of IXP Brazil
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[21:52:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 13: IXPs Around the World
[21:53:49] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 14: Africa: Need for Capacity Building
[21:53:59] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 15: AXIS I
[21:54:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> too bad the plenary is not broadcasted on TV, that would be even easier :)
[21:54:35] <Simon Romano> :-)
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[21:55:35] <Thiago Marinello> Maybe we can rent some  satellite transponder next time..  
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[21:56:03] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 16: LAC ??? the Need for Capacity Building
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[21:57:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 17: LAC ??? Capacity Building
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[21:58:23] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 18: LAC Partnerships have developed and???.
[21:59:25] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 19: IXP Toolkit
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[22:00:17] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 20: IXP Toolkit
[22:00:57] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 21: Keeping ???Local Traffic Local???
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[22:02:13] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 22: CAIDA???s Mission Statement
[22:02:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Amogh Dhamdhere
[22:02:36] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 22: CAIDA???s Mission Statement
[22:02:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 23: infrastructure
[22:02:46] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 22: CAIDA???s Mission Statement
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[22:03:04] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 23: infrastructure
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[22:04:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 24: infrastructure
[22:04:36] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 24: Raspberry Pi
[22:04:58] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 25: Archipelago monitors and data
[22:05:32] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 26: Archipelago data available to researchers
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[22:06:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 27: Supporting rich queries on Ark data
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[22:07:53] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 28: Vela: Interactive topology-on-demand
[22:08:34] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 29: DRoP+DDec
[22:09:40] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 30: AS-rank
[22:10:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 31: Recent relevant research
[22:11:40] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 32: Recent relevant research
[22:12:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 33: Thanks!
[22:13:13] <Lorenzo Miniero> Discussion
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[22:17:35] <SM> A non-technical analysis might explain why the routing is done that way.
[22:17:47] <mrex-ietf> In Europe there used to be a saying "all roads lead to Rome".  On the Internet its "all paths lead to Utah"
[22:18:02] <SM> Well, all roads lead to Europe
[22:18:49] <bortzmeyer> If data stays in Canada, is it safe? Canada is one of the Five Eyes...
[22:18:50] <mrex-ietf> or actually "all paths route through Utah"
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[22:22:05] <Andrew Clement> Canadians have a chance of redcuing SEC surveillance, but no leverage over NSA surveillance
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[22:23:28] <mrex-ietf> How do you know that your traceroute data is accurate.  I would not be surprised if NSA has mechanism in place to make some of their routers not show on traceroutes..
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[22:30:43] <Dave Thaler> compare distance vs latency and see if you see anomalies
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[22:48:27] <Lorenzo Miniero> that was fast! :)
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[22:48:35] <Thiago Marinello> :-)
[22:48:40] <Lorenzo Miniero> plenary's over
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[22:48:46] <serrhini mohamed> yes
[22:48:51] <serrhini mohamed> so fast
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[22:49:03] <Lorenzo Miniero> we'll make recordings available soon on http://ietf90.conf.meetecho.com
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