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[20:37:02] <Mohit Sethi> Jari Arkko at the mike.
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[20:42:20] <Lee> Is the screen on the left as nauseating as the one on the right?
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[20:51:49] <avri doria> any idea of the number of remote participants?
[20:52:09] <Simon Pietro Romano> 41 as of now
[20:52:21] <avri doria> thanks
[20:52:31] <Simon Pietro Romano> (Y)
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[20:53:24] <Simon Pietro Romano> (I mean 41 now on Meetecho)
[20:53:31] <Dave Thaler> RFC 7174 isn't the right RFC number on that slide, I think
[20:53:33] <Lee> That;s the number currently on meetecho, not necessarily the number of registered remote attendees.
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[20:53:52] <SM> Dave, no
[20:53:57] <avri doria> oh, i meant in total for the meeting (to the degree they registered and it can be known)
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[20:54:00] <avri doria> thanks for asking.
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[20:54:20] <SM> 7154
[20:54:47] <Dave Thaler> Yep, that one.  Maybe we can get the slide corrected in the proceedings
[20:54:58] <Lee> But there's a column in the attendees list about whether they're on-site or remote: https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf98/attendance.py
[20:55:24] <Simon Pietro Romano> https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf98/remoteattendance.py
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[20:56:17] <avri doria> thanks.  a goodly number.
[20:56:20] <Lee> 288! Wow!
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[20:59:17] <Brian Trammell> clapclapclap
[20:59:20] <avri doria> (clap)
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[20:59:25] <Mary Barnes> Thank you Marcia!
[20:59:28] <Simon Pietro Romano> Marcia, we simply love you :*
[20:59:29] <Azael Fernández> (Y)
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[21:04:40] <avri doria> this remote participant says meetecho crew is great.
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[21:18:47] <mcr> if you are a sixxs user, or supporters, I would be interested in your contribution towards nominating the sixxs team for the Postel Award.
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[21:19:15] <mcr> unicast me for google doc link.
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[21:24:20] <Brian Dickson> Am I the only one who lost the feed?
[21:24:31] <SM> The video feed works
[21:24:41] <Mohit Sethi_3743> The feed is still working
[21:25:10] <Brian Dickson> Thanks for the feedback - refresh fixed it
[21:25:23] <Brian Dickson> thanks
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[21:30:48] <Francis Dupont> As usual US != world so most can miss the reference
[21:31:21] <Francis Dupont> article 19 is:
[21:31:24] <Francis Dupont> The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
[21:32:34] <Shane Kerr> Francis: http://ichrp.org/en/article_19_udhr
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[21:32:49] <avri doria> article 19 refers to the UDHR Article 19 - Universal Declaration of Human Rights  Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
[21:33:07] <avri doria> see not everything refers to the US
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[21:34:00] <Francis Dupont> so the fact both are related is just an accident?
[21:34:32] <SM> Francis, coincidence :-)
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[21:35:18] <avri doria> no, every treaty is numbered. and they are called articles.  Article 19, the advocacy group in British and is named after the UDHR Article 19
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[21:39:30] <Francis Dupont> Got this one: Melvin Kranzberg's first (on 6) law of technology
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[21:55:11] <hallam@gmail.com> .
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[21:58:17] <avri doria> and HRPC RG  needs to do more experiments. though i am not sure we can ever agree on how to tip the playing field.
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[22:01:09] <john bond> anyone else able to take over the camera...
[22:01:43] <Meetecho> john bond: what do you mean?
[22:02:03] <john bond> well it keeps on moving and never actully focusing on the person speaking
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[22:02:51] <Meetecho> unfortunately we can't capture people in the mic line, our camera has a limited angle: we tried checking if we could get and failed, so back to the main speaker ;)
[22:03:02] <john bond> ok thanks
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[22:03:13] <Meetecho> apologies if this is a bit annoying, we'll try to limit too much movement
[22:03:31] <Dennis Kort> video feed with people on mic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvgIX3-pAZE
[22:03:31] <Brian Trammell> meetecho: can we at least get the whole panel?
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[22:04:04] <Brian Trammell> the youtube feed is about six seconds delayed
[22:04:07] <Meetecho> Brian Trammell: if you mean in a single shot, I'm afraid not, as we're too close to the podium
[22:04:07] <john bond> thanks Dennis
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[22:04:16] <Brian Trammell> okay thanks
[22:04:19] <Meetecho> but we'll definitely pan when the panel is introduced
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[22:13:43] <avri doria> the UDHR was agreed to by most nations, not just the western ones.
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[22:16:02] <avri doria> and most have even signed the derivate binding instruments on Civil and Political rights. But as Dave said, they do have the exit clause of national law.
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[22:29:46] <Dan York> Who was the last speaker at the mic?
[22:29:54] <Dan York> (Asking for one of the note takers)
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[22:31:33] <M Sethi_7444> Last speaker at mic: Bron Gondwana
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[22:31:58] <Dan York> Thank you
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[22:52:52] <avri doria> (clap)
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[22:52:55] <Mary Barnes> Standing & clapping
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[22:54:14] <Mary Barnes> Fly the drone!
[22:54:27] <Simon Pietro Romano> Fly!!
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[22:55:04] <avri doria> having seen in many of those multiple spaces, i agree he is one amazing dude.
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[23:05:30] <Michael Graves> I wish the video stream was sharper
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[23:12:10] <Meetecho> Michael Graves: sorry about that, zooming in sometimes looses a bit of focus
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