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Wednesday, March 21, 2018< ^ >
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[16:57:56] <meetecho> FYI (since it looks like the link is not on the official agenda), you can follow the plenary via Meetecho here: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf101/plenary
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[17:14:04] <John Klensin> Is the background material the result of a consensus process?
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[17:14:25] <Sean Leonard> Is everyone hearing the funky music playing? 🎶
[17:14:45] <Sean Leonard> I was going to say, if we have music, at least it should be, uh, culturally appropriate to the venue...?
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[17:15:46] <Henry Hotz> I am. I also see a little thumbnail video of people fussing with a podium
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[17:18:40] <Simon Pietro Romano> @Henry: double clicck on the thumbnail to enlarge it...
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[17:47:50] <Sean Leonard> I wonder if there is a way to make the video and slides relatively the same size? It seems that one is always much larger than the other (if both are visible)--no way to arbitrarily resize, or at least make it closer to 50/50 or even 66/33
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[17:51:19] <Sander Steffann> Hmmm, sad that meeting fees are going up. They should be going *down*
[17:52:23] <Sander Steffann> I would expect a larger contribution from ISOC. They have a budget of 42M, and a much larger part of that should go into IETF support
[17:53:04] <Sander Steffann> </rant>
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[17:55:12] <Simon Pietro Romano> @Sean: GUI space organization is always messy. The current layout is the one that was deemed to be the best tradeoff after  a number of design review rounds.
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[18:11:40] <Sean Leonard> @Simon: ok, but now you have at least one voice for better balance between the two feeds (computer/slide feed and camera feed). Or resize handles! I wonder if I could edit the HTML dynamically myself...
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[18:32:30] <John Klensin> Sean, Simon (and his colleagues) and I have been over this several times).  and I think I understand the constraints at least reasonably well.  The bottom line is that, while it is possible to diddle some things, being able to use Meetecho in a mode with multiple remote presenters really constrains what it reasonably possible as long as one sticks to a single overall window.  My personal pet peeve is not being able to see the Participant list and the chat discussion at the same time and to be forced into a single-iine chat input panel.  I think that the only solution that is likely to make several of us happy at the same time would involve being able to pop the various bits out into separate windows so that they can be dragged and sized wherever one wants them (including, for those with the facilities, onto separate screens).   But that may not be a good idea for technical reasons and almost certainly isn't going to happen any time soon.
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[19:26:50] <resnick> What is the name and affiliation of the moderator? They’re not in the agenda.
[19:27:32] <melinda.shore> That's Jane Coffin, ISOC
[19:28:00] <resnick> thx
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[19:37:37] <Sandra Murphy> BGP is another "classic" protocol that gets added to again and again.
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[20:07:46] <Sean Leonard> good point just made, and serious
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