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[21:14:12] <Keith Moore> clap!
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[21:16:01] <Thomas Peterson> From the agenda page it appears the meeting materials to download are empty, and it's a 124 byte tarball.
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[21:18:41] <Adeola Alain Patrick AINA> same  here
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[21:19:47] <Andrew Malis> @Meetecho can you fix the audio?
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[21:19:59] <Andrew Malis> Thanks!
[21:20:03] <Cathy Aronson> better
[21:20:06] <Matthew Gillmore> Audio better now!  Thanks
[21:20:09] <Peter Van Roste> Thanks!
[21:20:13] <Michael Baer> thanks
[21:20:19] <Bhumip Khasnabish> Thx!
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[21:58:10] <Bhumip Khasnabish> Would there be a NEED for PII Fiduciary ?  
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[21:58:33] <Bhumip Khasnabish> If yes, where (which organization) should the work be done? Thanks!
[21:58:56] <francesca> is anyone doing jabber relay?
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[21:59:24] <stpeter> francesca: I didn't see a volunteer
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[22:06:07] <Yoshiro Yoneya> Can't you use meetecho?
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[22:07:14] <francesca> yes I think meetecho is set up for virtual queue
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[22:08:13] <francesca> but I think a jabber scribe is needed anyway
[22:08:25] <francesca> *at least one
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[22:08:41] <ssahib> is there a question for the mic?
[22:09:13] <francesca> maybe the one from Bhumip Khasnabish ?
[22:09:26] <ssahib> sorry I didn't see it
[22:09:42] <ssahib> can it be repeated from someone who can see it?
[22:10:01] <francesca> but even if it is the line is closed now
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[22:10:51] <ssahib> Okay. My client disconnected I think for a bit
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[22:11:13] <ssahib> I think someone else was (also) jabber scribing though
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[22:11:58] <Bhumip Khasnabish> Would there be a NEED for PII Fiduciary ? [17:58] If yes, where (which organization) should the work be done? Thanks!
[22:12:42] <francesca> ssahib: oh ok :) was just making sure there was someone jabber scribing, don't want to repeat the same mistake from IETF103 (no jabber during plenary)
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[22:14:32] <stpeter> francesca: +1 :-)
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[22:14:43] <ssahib> The line is pretty comprehensively cut :( sorry about that
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[22:15:27] <Yoshiro Yoneya> I'll ask someone to relay during next session.
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[22:16:01] <Yoshiro Yoneya> (I'm sorry I'm not good at English pronounciation)
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[22:16:30] <francesca> Im in the room, can't stay until the end but can help if needed, just need to know
[22:16:45] <francesca> also please preface your comment with "mic:" if you want it relayed to the mic
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[22:17:31] <mcr> If I was Equifax, trying to cover my incompetence, I'd want to make people think it was a foreign intelligence agency :-)
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[22:17:52] <mcr> (not that I'm saying it isn't true, ....)
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[22:19:55] <Yoshiro Yoneya> I asked Pete to do relay, and he was agreed!
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[22:20:58] <stpeter> Yoshiro Yoneya: thank you!
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[22:22:51] <Peter Resnick> Agreed? Acquiesced, and only because Yoneya is such a nice person. ;-)
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[22:23:21] <stpeter> Peter Resnick: you are a gentleman and a scholar.
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[22:24:23] <Peter Resnick> I probably was both at some point. Nowadays....?
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[22:28:29] <francesca> cool! I don't need to get up! Thanks Peter :)
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[22:29:17] <Bhumip Khasnabish> Thanks.
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[22:29:52] <Peter Resnick> Sorry for the flashies. Someone is working on it.
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[22:30:21] <Peter Resnick> Fixed.
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[22:30:58] <cmorgan> All slides for tonight’s admin plenary are in one deck in the proceedings, here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-ietf-sessa-all-slides-ietf-105-administrativeoperations-plenary-00
[22:31:27] <stpeter> Thanks, cmorgan!
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[22:45:49] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> Is anyone else having periodic cutouts of the stream?
[22:46:23] <Charles Eckel> Feed in room is good, and screen continues to be good too
[22:46:33] <SM> Not over here, Jacob
[22:47:10] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> Thanks, must be on my end.
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[23:01:50] <Brian Dickson> For those not previously following closely, can anyone briefly explain what happened to lead to RSE not renewing?
[23:02:23] <Samuel Weiler> LOL
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[23:03:07] <SM> Brian, it may discussed during question time
[23:03:51] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> (it was a long and very tendentious thread on ietf@ - I think it would be hard to rehash briefly in here)
[23:04:23] <Brian Dickson> okay... rough time period in the archives? thx in advance
[23:04:33] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> last two weeks or so
[23:04:39] <Peter Resnick> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/Qy8yFoM0AMcGOGEENxZ5BPrtsI4
[23:04:42] <Charles Eckel> You have search for RSE
[23:04:48] <Peter Resnick> Start there. It's Heather's explanation.
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[23:06:34] <Peter Resnick> More "interesting" views on the topic can be found around that date.
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[23:06:51] <Samuel Weiler> see RSOC apology today also.
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[23:10:03] <Brian Dickson> thanks
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[23:12:42] <Andrew Sullivan> I will say in respect of Jason's remarks about the Endowment that, speaking for myself, I think the LLC was really patient in how long it took to sort out the Endowment transition.  I take full responsibility for any delays.
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[23:15:01] mcr wonders if they have to drink everytime some word is said.
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[23:24:30] <Peter Resnick> Jacob, the exciting part is likely going to be when the IAB is onstage.
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[23:26:34] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> Thanks! I misunderstood.
[23:27:18] <Peter Resnick> No worries. The audience I'm sure understood what you were referring to.
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[23:39:40] <Keith Moore> oh wow.  WHen people take it on themselves to police others' "tone" that strikes me as a disaster.
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[23:48:15] <stpeter> +1 to a last call list. Great suggestion from mnot.
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[23:50:58] <Keith Moore> +1 also.  there is already ietf-announce of course, but the _discussion_ of last call items should be other than on the IETF list.
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