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Thursday, June 8, 2017< ^ >
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[07:02:37] <Melinda> Are we starting at 9am CST today?
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[07:04:04] <Melinda> Tnx
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[07:20:59] ted.h has set the subject to: Lastday, Capricorn 29s.  Carousel begins!  
[07:22:05] <Daniel> we hear you
[07:22:24] <Daniel> and we see you!
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[07:39:33] <spencerdawkins> Are people in the room speaking quietly? :D
[07:40:10] <mnot> can you hear lars clearly?
[07:40:21] <spencerdawkins> Lars is now about twice as loud - thanks!
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[07:42:31] <Melinda> It was difficult to hear Martin for a bit.
[07:43:45] <Martin Thomson> I will try to speak up
[07:46:47] <craigt> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-alt-mark-04
[07:55:16] <spencerdawkins> Martin is getting one percent quieter with each sentence ...
[07:55:49] <Daniel> oh volume
[07:55:52] <spencerdawkins> thanks for the volume increase
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[08:17:51] <ted.h> Hmm. That makes finding a common pattern for transport close harder.
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[08:24:30] <ted.h> Hmm, so if a response stream works this way, it can have only a single promise, or you would have a mapping problem.
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[08:31:47] <ekr> So, what I am trying to understand is how much this constrains the rest of our design space.
[08:32:01] <ekr> I actually wonder whether HTTP should stop trying to refer to things by stream.
[08:32:20] <mnot> IIRC we call them ‘exchanges” in 1.1
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[08:54:29] <craigt> has anyone written a straw man for rtp/quic?
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[09:01:00] <ted.h> There are folks working on it, but there are very different designs that would be rtp/quic than the one they are exploring.
[09:02:27] <ted.h> Yeah, if this is "hard bexit" unidirectionality, it's very different from a "soft brexit" version in which we retained a way to do implicit correlation (like the stream 0 case)
[09:03:17] <RONI> it will intersting to see how all RTP topolgies will work with QUIC and how header extensions like framemarking for middlebox handling will work
[09:03:20] <craigt> don't worry about; just pass an executive order and stop asking questions
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[09:09:01] <craigt> Does anyone have any new implementations to add to the page?
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[09:28:51] <Daniel> the beginning of an mnot soda collection!  ;-)
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[09:35:26] <buck> IMO, would be nice if some folks in the room who are working on quic implementations would at least add themselves to a "working on it" section… nudge nudge ;-)
[09:36:13] <craigt> +1
[09:38:14] <ted.h> Did we get a new scribe?
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[09:39:40] <lucaspardue> +1 to bucks request
[09:41:31] <Daniel> clearly someone is scribing =)
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[09:41:56] <Sean Turner> we gonna slap these slides in the GH repo?
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[09:53:22] <ted.h> "More crazy crypto" is the name of ekr's Neil Diamond cover band.
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[09:54:45] <craigt> is it recorded on 45 and played on 33?
[09:55:19] <ted.h> No, but "Kentucky Women" is 22 seconds long.
[09:55:41] <ted.h> Great for ringtones.
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[10:00:06] <mnot> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vm7vqMPxlCEuPnbrzIeE4Div9l3H1-rYxQqGX6A7MiI/edit#
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[10:02:05] <mnot> EKR slides -->
[10:02:05] <mnot> https://docs.google.com/a/rtfm.com/presentation/d/1Tm37PG7V4agIB_VvW73QYDmIy4UCY9lf1BDgkz4SPME/edit?usp=sharing
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[10:20:56] <Daniel> now we'll see if anyone picks up a beer from the freidge there on the left in the kitchen area! =)
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[12:12:14] <mnot> Remote folk -- we have some stragglers. Will start soon-ish.
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[12:17:55] <mnot> Remotes -- can you hear us?
[12:18:10] <spencerdawkins> Yes, Mark
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[12:18:52] <spencerdawkins> I'm assuming you're not at full volume while waiting for stragglers, of course.
[12:18:52] <mnot> I’m not sure how that’s possible
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[12:36:34] <RONI> I prefer email threads, IETF mailing list. easier to follow multiple WGs.
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[12:46:13] <lucaspardue> Zarchitecture
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[12:55:16] <Brian Trammell> eastsound is nice
[12:55:23] <Brian Trammell> let's just turn Orcas Island into Standards Island
[12:55:44] <ted.h> Victoria has a nice castle.
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[13:05:30] <RONI> And is in Canada
[13:07:11] <buck> whistler has lots of venues
[13:12:10] <craigt> hoping those 10 hands can add themselves to the implementations page if they are missing
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[14:25:43] <mnot> Remote folks: Any comment on the audio quality of this meeting? Acceptable / Not Acceptable? Better / Worse than Tokyo?
[14:26:38] <chi.jiun.su> some echo but acceptable
[14:27:07] <mnot> There’s a lot of echo in the room, unfortunately. It’s difficult to hear here.
[14:27:36] <chi.jiun.su> Scribing helps
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