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martin.thomson has set the subject to: RTCWEB WG http://tools.ietf.org/wg/rtcweb/agenda
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[18:33:49] <richard.barnes> all i see on the roster are hta, me, and RjS. is that right?
[18:34:02] <RjS> that's my view
[18:34:11] <RjS> lots of people here are probably using jabber.org accounts
[18:34:17] <RjS> and jabber.org is having a broken
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[18:35:51] <burn> test
[18:36:18] <burn> no one on this channel is remote, I believe
[18:36:39] <Martin Thomson> so far everyone in the jabber room is actually physically present, yes
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[18:37:03] <burn> I won't relay for slackers who can't go up to the mic themselves
[18:37:13] <richard.barnes> burn: i see you
[18:37:29] <burn> likewise
[18:37:41] <Gonzalo> What's wrong with slackers? :)
[18:37:42] <richard.barnes> that was in response to your test, but hi
[18:37:44] <Martin Thomson> I always find it amusing when I write a snarky comment to the jabber room and the scribe relays it to the mic
[18:38:01] <burn> ah, I reserve that privilege
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[18:43:19] <Martin Thomson> protection streams or layers can result in multiple SSRCs (RTP streams) for the same encoding
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[18:51:01] <Cullen Jennings> pink and yellow lemonade
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[18:53:11] <Ted> My point being is that if you confuse a fleen, a chicken, and an avocado, you have a larger problem.
[18:54:14] <richard.barnes> for those who were wondering: "fleen: n. pl. 1. Obs. pl. of Flea." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fleen
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[18:59:31] <Martin Thomson> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/2012Oct/att-0076/realtime-media.html
[19:05:31] <Martin Thomson> registration policy is "specification required", which implies that an RFC is not needed
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[19:06:40] <Martin Thomson> the designated expert for the registry is not specified
[19:09:27] <Ted> Are you volunteering?
[19:09:59] <Martin Thomson> because I am so, so qualified to perform that task
[19:11:52] <burn> got dropped. which registry?
[19:12:40] <Martin Thomson> http://www.iana.org/assignments/sdp-parameters/sdp-parameters.xml#sdp-parameters-10
[19:12:48] <burn> thx martin
[19:20:18] <Spencer Dawkins> was Harald's comment an action item, or a decision? :-)
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[19:28:59] <richard.barnes> works fine for me :)
[19:29:04] <burn> I'm on
[19:29:24] <Gonzalo> I could not join from my jabber.org account, but did not have any issue from my gmail.com account.
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[19:29:32] <richard.barnes> jabber.org is broke
[19:29:40] <Gonzalo> And we have been having the same issue related to different chat rooms, not only this one.
[19:29:42] <richard.barnes> er, broken
[19:29:51] <Gonzalo> But we have already made PSA aware of the problem.
[19:30:57] <hta> http://www.iana.org/assignments/sdp-parameters/sdp-parameters.xml#sdp-parameters-9
[19:31:15] <hta> is the more interesting registry, because it's longer.
[19:31:33] <hta> excellent examples of accepted "specification required" documents.
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[20:00:18] <Martin Thomson> AcmePacket: keeping it real
[20:03:50] <Martin Thomson> I want a pony!
[20:06:39] <Jonathan Lennox> 🐎
[20:07:13] <Jonathan Lennox> How's that?
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[20:28:26] <richard.barnes> signaling bytes are bigger
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[21:09:38] <Martin Thomson> damn, I really wanted to use that. that was a perfect lead-in to a Comment #22
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[21:26:41] <hta> how many sbcs are there in the world?
[21:27:30] <Martin Thomson> between 1 and 10billion
[21:31:35] <richard.barnes> so, few enough that google could afford to replace them all?
[21:32:20] <richard.barnes> the better question might be "how widespread are SBCs?"
[21:32:35] <richard.barnes> if i show up at a random spot on the internet, what is the chance that one will be in my way
[21:32:37] <richard.barnes> ?
[21:33:27] <Martin Thomson> that's not really the right question. Maybe: if you want to make a call using SIP, what are the chances it will hit an SBC? And the answer is probably: almost certainly.
[21:34:13] <richard.barnes> sure, but that's because SBCs are explicitly put in places where SIP happens (e.g., voice VLANs)
[21:34:18] <richard.barnes> that is not where my browser is
[21:34:53] <Martin Thomson> for WebRTC, the choice of whether to hit an SBC is largely opt-in, usually at the point that you want to do SIP interop
[21:54:04] <Spencer Dawkins> what are we thinking about?
[21:54:52] <Spencer Dawkins> asking to for the minutes
[21:55:23] <hardie@jabber.psg.com> Whether or not Richard is volunteering to do a use-case-by-use-case analysis of this approach summary.
[21:55:40] <Spencer Dawkins> ah - thanks!
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[23:02:02] <Spencer Dawkins> how many times can we raise our hands?
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