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[01:23:36] <mohammed serrhini> sound up plz
[01:23:53] <Lorenzo Miniero> working on that, sorry
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[01:24:08] <mohammed serrhini> ok
[01:24:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> should be ok now
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[01:25:30] <Sean Turner> okay we're on the JSEP slides
[01:25:41] <Sean Turner> title: Update (I)
[01:25:42] <Adam Roach> Sean: I finally got in, so I can scribe from here. :)
[01:25:48] <Sean Turner> excellent
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[01:26:36] <Jonathan Lennox> I will backup scribe for Adam, since we have lots of remote guys.
[01:26:49] <Adam Roach> Next slide
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[01:26:57] <Adam Roach> "Updates (II)"
[01:27:11] <Adam Roach> Thanks, Jonathan Lennox
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[01:27:36] <Adam Roach> Next slide
[01:27:46] <Adam Roach> "proto field in m= line (background)"
[01:28:49] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "proto field in m= line"
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[01:30:26] <Adam Roach> "this isn't quite correct" is pointing to the second-to-last-bullet
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[01:31:50] <Ted.h> That was Harald Alvestrand at the mic
[01:32:51] <Adam Roach> As a reminder, if any remote participant has a comment for the mic, let me know and I'll take it up there.
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[01:32:55] <csp> “No a=rtcp-fb → AVP timing (trr-int=4)” is presumably when RTP/AVPF is selected?
[01:33:12] <csp> i.e., if RTP/AVP is selected, do usual timings?
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[01:34:20] <Ted.h> Cullen Jennings at the mic
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[01:36:22] <csp> Cullen: no objections, just checking that this is the rule when AVPF is used, not for AVP which has no trr-int
[01:36:22] <Adam Roach> EKR, not at mic: "Okay, that just sounds wrong"
[01:36:49] <Jonathan Lennox> csp: do you want that mic relayed?
[01:36:55] <csp> no
[01:36:59] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "ICE Configuration Changes"
[01:37:22] <Jonathan Lennox> Fluffy is not in the Jabber
[01:38:00] <csp> no to matter – I’ll check the draft and send mail if there’s a problem
[01:39:27] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "Clarification on Bundle Policy"
[01:45:24] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "TLS/TCP for non-RTP/non-SCTP (#"
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[01:49:23] <Adam Roach> Current slide: "Bundle/Mux Policy (#91)"
[01:52:17] <Martin Duerst> People asking questions: please go to the mic, otherwise I have to have one hand one the volume control of my speaker all the time (and may still not be able to hear you). Thanks!
[01:54:16] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "Value of {local,remote}Description when closed (#88)"
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[01:56:58] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "a=ssrc for a=recvonly m= lines (#79)"
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[02:04:48] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "Death of a one-way stream (#76)"
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[02:11:28] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "multiple t= lines"
[02:14:08] <Adam Roach> Next slide: "Signaling synchornization (#31)"
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[02:16:42] <Adam Roach> next slide: "changing b="
[02:17:34] <Adam Roach> csp: are you willing to take this on?
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[02:17:48] <csp> No-one other than Magnus understands b=…
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[02:20:14] <Adam Roach> JSEP is now donw
[02:20:21] <Adam Roach> done
[02:21:03] <Adam Roach> First slide: "Status"
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[02:22:07] <Adam Roach> Next slide: Issue 3
[02:22:16] <Adam Roach> (Issue 2 went by very quickly)
[02:22:33] <Adam Roach> Issue 4
[02:29:54] <Randell Jesup> mic: Ted's comment seems sane to me.  If the commenter/AD's/etc are ok, I'm good with it.  
[02:32:28] <Randell Jesup> no objection
[02:33:02] <Adam Roach> From the jabber room, please be clear what you're responding to.
[02:33:14] <Adam Roach> (There's quite a bit of audio lag sometimes)
[02:33:16] <Randell Jesup> no disagreement with Must/Should
[02:33:20] <Michael Tuexen> MIC: What about: MUST 1.0, SHOULD do latest standarized?
[02:33:21] <Adam Roach> Randell Jesup: thanks
[02:34:54] <Adam Roach> New slide: issue 5
[02:36:02] <Adam Roach> New slide: data-channel issue 1
[02:37:42] <Randell Jesup> I'm good with leaving it where it is
[02:38:05] <Adam Roach> Randell Jesup: Let me know if that's just commenting or for the mic.
[02:38:32] <Randell Jesup> I'm also good with plan b.  Not needed to go to mic
[02:38:49] <Adam Roach> New slide: data-channel (issue 2)
[02:38:50] <Randell Jesup> I'll prefix with mic: for mic comments
[02:39:21] <Adam Roach> Randell Jesup: Thanks for the clarification.
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[02:44:18] <Adam Roach> Current slide: "The Browser / Device Split"
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[02:53:22] <Adam Roach> Current slide: "Endpoints?"
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[02:53:33] <Adam Roach> Current slide: "Proposed terminology"
[02:57:17] <Adam Roach> Slide: "Subsets"
[02:59:18] <Adam Roach> Slide: "The concept of 'compatible'"
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[03:04:54] <Adam Roach> Slide: "Open Questions"
[03:05:00] <Adam Roach> Wait, belay that
[03:05:06] <Adam Roach> We're not doing open questions.
[03:05:39] <Adam Roach> RETURN:
[03:05:48] <Adam Roach> "Background: TURN in WebRTC"
[03:06:21] <Adam Roach> "Classic TURN in WebRTC"
[03:06:49] <Adam Roach> "Now: Enterprise relays (requried!)"
[03:07:21] <Adam Roach> "Now: Enterprise relays (discovery)"
[03:07:36] <Adam Roach> "Bad options for handling these relays"
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[03:08:37] <Adam Roach> "RETURN specifies a good behavior"
[03:09:16] <Adam Roach> "What kind of proxy?"
[03:09:41] <Adam Roach> "Example: Host candidate (normal)"
[03:10:02] <Adam Roach> "Example: TURN candidate (nromal)"
[03:10:12] <Adam Roach> "Example: Turn via HTTP proxy"
[03:10:41] <Adam Roach> "Example: Host candidate via RETURN"
[03:10:55] <Adam Roach> "Example: HOST candidate via RETURN"
[03:11:02] <Adam Roach> Example: TURN via RETURN
[03:13:19] <Adam Roach> "Questions resolved by RETURN"
[03:15:07] <Adam Roach> Sorry, was at the mic. The current slide is "In conclusion"
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[03:20:22] <Adam Roach> Moving on to gateways
[03:20:48] <Adam Roach> "Why a separate document"
[03:21:22] <Adam Roach> "Why gateways are important"
[03:21:55] <Adam Roach> "Why gateways are special"
[03:22:32] <Adam Roach> "What the draft says"
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[03:24:59] <Simon Romano> I would suggest you to copy-paste some of the following stuff into Harald's draft:
[03:25:00] <Simon Romano> http://webrtchacks.com/webrtc-gw/
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