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[06:55:00] <Russ Housley> Chair remind everyone about NOTE WELL
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[06:57:58] <Russ Housley> Chairs provide I-D status and dependencies
[06:59:03] <Russ Housley> EKR to present on JSEP, the major work item for this meeting
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[07:00:18] <Bernard Aboba> I am here.
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[07:01:38] <Bernard Aboba> Taylor raised it originally.  
[07:01:42] <Russ Housley> open issue on setDirection
[07:01:57] <Bernard Aboba> It is a bit more complicated than that, but we will figure it out.
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[07:03:31] <Russ Housley> open issue on changing the candidate pool size mid-session
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[07:04:37] <Russ Housley> suggestion: it is a no-op after setLocal()
[07:06:19] <Russ Housley> open issue on MID and RID privacy
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[07:11:59] <Russ Housley> open issue on simulcast
[07:17:56] <Russ Housley> open issue on RTP/RTCP routing rules
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[07:19:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> maybe wrong mic?
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[07:22:35] <Bernard Aboba> The problem is that if you want to cover all the existing RTCP messages mentioned in RTP-Usage you will get into a lot of complexity.
[07:23:45] <Bernard Aboba> BUNDLE does not handle the RTCP question because that relates to Senders as well as Receivers.
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[07:36:22] <Bernard Aboba> Agree with Colin that PT-based SSRC latching should go away.
[07:39:29] <Russ Housley> open issue on RTP/RTCP processing and demux algorithm in Section 6
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[07:52:59] <Russ Housley> open issue on rues to prevent applying an old offer/answer
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[08:00:06] <ekr> Here is the text I was referring to
[08:00:08] <ekr> “Session descriptions generated by createOffer MUST be immediately usable by setLocalDescription without causing an error as long as setLocalDescription is called reasonably soon. If a system has limited resources (e.g. a finite number of decoders), createOffer needs to return an offer that reflects the current state of the system, so that setLocalDescription will succeed when it attempts to acquire those resources. The session descriptions MUST remain usable by setLocalDescription without causing an error until at least the end of the fulfillment callback of the returned promise. Calling this method is needed to get the ICE user name fragment and password.”
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[08:07:14] <Russ Housley> open issue on adding previously discarded codecs in a subsequent offer
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[08:11:19] <Bernard Aboba> Yes, this can be handled by offering both and changing the ordering (e.g. setCodecPreferences).
[08:13:42] <Russ Housley> Bernard, do you want to say that in Meetecho?
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[08:28:28] <Jonathan Lennox> Bernard, be aware that with the current display of Meetecho, Justin's video is covering the queue display, so we can't see if you want to talk.
[08:28:29] <Russ Housley> moving from slides to issue tracker
[08:28:33] <Jonathan Lennox> Justin, your video is frozen.
[08:29:11] <Simon Pietro Romano> Looks fine from here (NOC)
[08:29:30] <Jonathan Lennox> We see no moving video from Justin.
[08:30:04] <Jonathan Lennox> Meetecho: the display in our room might be busted
[08:30:36] <Jonathan Lennox> The chairs pushed the "dismiss" button for Justin and nothing happened.
[08:30:37] <Simon Pietro Romano> Yep...it's the queue laptop.
[08:30:47] <Simon Pietro Romano> Coming there...
[08:30:51] <Russ Housley> Meetecho: we can't move the the next person in line
[08:31:09] <Meetecho> Russ Housley: looking into that
[08:31:37] <Simon Pietro Romano> We can anyhow unmute them from here, if you want...
[08:31:58] <Simon Pietro Romano> Unmuted Bernard now
[08:32:18] <Simon Pietro Romano> Justin is next...
[08:32:35] <Simon Pietro Romano> ...and one of us is coming to the room to resume the queue laptop.
[08:33:26] <Simon Pietro Romano> @Bernard: you're up if you want to chime in.
[08:34:05] <Justin Uberti> i have a suggestion.
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[08:36:55] <Justin Uberti> I think removetrack stops the sender.
[08:38:29] <Bernard Aboba> So removeTrack doesn't take effect immediately?
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[08:46:15] <Russ Housley> last open issue
[08:46:30] <Russ Housley> session ends in just a few minutes
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[08:50:20] <Russ Housley> trying squeeze in open issue 407 before the session ends
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[08:51:25] <Russ Housley> nope. resume JSEP when we meet later this week
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