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[19:22:40] <Simon Romano> I'm doing automated scribing through Meetecho.
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[19:22:45] <Simon Romano> Slide numbers and titles.
[19:22:52] <Simon Romano> Hope this helps
[19:23:25] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Note Well
[19:23:26] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: Routing Area WG
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[19:24:24] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Note Well
[19:24:27] <Stewart Bryant> Note Well
[19:24:34] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: IPR Disclosure
[19:25:05] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Administrivia
[19:25:13] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: IETF 90 Routing Area WG Agenda
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[19:25:19] <Stewart Bryant> Auth and Contrib must disclose and this gate progress
[19:26:03] <Stewart Bryant> To Giles - is the audio OK
[19:26:07] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: Document Status
[19:26:10] <Giles Heron> it's just about ok
[19:26:12] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: WG Last Call
[19:26:14] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: Document Status
[19:26:31] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: WG Last Call
[19:26:48] <Simon Romano> @Giles: what do you mean by 'juat about'?
[19:26:53] <Simon Romano> @Giles: what do you mean by 'just about'?
[19:27:00] <Simon Romano> Should it be improved?
[19:27:27] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: Document Status (3)
[19:27:38] <Giles Heron> audio is pretty tinny Stewart.
[19:27:45] <Giles Heron> make that very tinny
[19:28:00] <Simon Romano> Slide 9: Document Status (4)
[19:28:36] <Giles Heron> Stewart sounds fine.  Maybe this speaker is too close to the mic?
[19:28:36] <Stewart Bryant> any better  or is this too quiet
[19:28:37] <Simon Romano> Re you listenimg to the mp3 feed, or to the Meetecho one?
[19:28:40] <Giles Heron> MP3
[19:28:44] <Giles Heron> I can try meetecho
[19:28:48] <Simon Romano> Are you listenimg to the mp3 feed, or to the Meetecho one?
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[19:29:09] <Simon Romano> Slide 10: IETF 90 Routing Area WG Agenda
[19:29:17] <Simon Romano> Presentation is over
[19:29:34] <Stewart Bryant> ipfrr mib
[19:29:38] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: IETF 89 outcomes
[19:29:52] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Diffs -02 to -04
[19:30:24] <Stewart Bryant> moving to multiple instance
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[19:30:42] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Diffs -02 to -04
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[19:31:06] <Stewart Bryant> To Giles - any better
[19:31:19] <Giles Heron> no audio at all on meetecho with my browser
[19:31:22] <Giles Heron> will re-join the other stream
[19:31:44] <Giles Heron> can meetecho guys give me the .rtsp URL?
[19:31:51] <Giles Heron> might be better than the .m3u
[19:32:18] <Simon Romano> rtsp://ballroom.conf.meetecho.com/4ghm5l9.sdp
[19:32:21] <Giles Heron> thx
[19:32:29] <Simon Romano> Try this one, if your browser is not webrtc-enabled
[19:32:41] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: Diffs -02 to -04
[19:32:51] <Stewart Bryant> What's next slide
[19:32:59] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: What’s next ?
[19:33:06] <Stewart Bryant> Chairs request comments would liek to progress quickly
[19:33:19] <Stewart Bryant> Alia: - sounds great
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[19:34:12] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: undefined
[19:34:16] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Introduction
[19:34:23] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: draft-litkowski-rtgwg-spf-uloop-pb-state
[19:34:24] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Introduction
[19:34:45] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Microloops (reminder …  )
[19:34:52] <Stewart Bryant> Microllops 101
[19:35:46] <Giles Heron> slide is correct if S-E metric <2?
[19:35:48] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: IGP convergence influence on microloops
[19:36:08] <Giles Heron> oh - sound much better now
[19:36:17] <Simon Romano> ;-)
[19:36:20] <akatlas> well, also - do we really need the instance info here ?  This is based off the IP Forwarding Table MIB [RFC4292] which doesn't care how the route got put in - whether ISIS, OSPF, or a particular instance of it
[19:36:55] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: SPF trigger strategies
[19:38:16] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: SPF delay strategies
[19:38:44] <Stewart Bryant> To giles - yes I think the slide was right I checked
[19:39:22] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: Mixing strategies in a network
[19:40:02] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: Mixing strategies in a network
[19:40:42] <Simon Romano> Slide 9: |
[19:41:30] <Simon Romano> Slide 10: Proposed work items
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[19:42:04] <Simon Romano> Slide 11: Non goal
[19:42:41] <Simon Romano> Slide 12: What’s next ?
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[19:43:21] <Simon Romano> Presentation is over
[19:43:33] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Recap 1: Distributed SPF
[19:43:34] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: Standardized back-off
[19:43:55] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Recap 1: Distributed SPF
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[19:44:29] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Recap 2: Back off SPF delay
[19:45:27] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Back off SPF delay is not a local consid
[19:45:34] <Simon Romano> eration
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[19:45:56] <Simon Romano> @chairs: please tell this speaker to wear the mike instead of keeping it in his hands.
[19:46:13] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: Example
[19:47:21] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: How often - how long
[19:48:15] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: Very easy to solve
[19:48:42] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: Micro-loops
[19:49:08] <Simon Romano> Slide 9: Summary
[19:50:29] <Stewart Bryant> do we agree on having one:
[19:50:47] <Stewart Bryant> Peter Ashwood - are theire migration issues
[19:51:08] <Stewart Bryant> - Same as today with multiple vendors
[19:51:53] <Stewart Bryant> Peter A - remember that it can take a long time (mths, years) to do a migration
[19:52:27] <Stewart Bryant> - If you have a single vendor you do not need IETF - can me private
[19:54:22] <Stewart Bryant> Alvaro as participant: standardining values does not belng in WG but a BCP providing advice on this problem would be useful
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[19:54:54] <Stewart Bryant> - we don't want to standarize values - just how they increase
[19:55:27] <Stewart Bryant> - Can't trigger all SPFs at the same time
[19:57:16] <Stewart Bryant> -Alaetinglu - will only help when you have high churn - but will stil hit corner case due to network delay - what you suggest will help - not need to rush with the up  
[19:57:34] <Stewart Bryant> - Agree need to reduce flooding in n/w
[19:57:50] <Stewart Bryant> - we are in agreement
[19:58:20] <Stewart Bryant> - Need to see n/w as gobal will be multiple events
[19:58:43] <Stewart Bryant> - in large n/w see multiple events
[19:59:24] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: Example
[20:02:37] <Stewart Bryant> Hannes - many timer commits go back to 1998 - does teh community need to go back to IGP grouuds and change the tier values
[20:03:11] <Stewart Bryant> Hannes  need to minimise the blackout window
[20:04:01] <Stewart Bryant> Acee - this can be addressed by teh requiremnets - it's a good idea
[20:04:18] <Stewart Bryant> Talk about this o the list
[20:04:35] <Stewart Bryant> (Chairs - talk abiut this on the list)
[20:04:54] <Simon Romano> Presentation is over
[20:05:16] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: MRT-related draft status
[20:05:17] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: Update on MRT-FRR related drafts
[20:05:19] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: MRT-related draft status
[20:05:31] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: Update on MRT-FRR related drafts
[20:05:55] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: MRT-related draft status
[20:08:50] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: MRT document relationships draft-atlas-m
[20:13:51] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: MRT architecture draft
[20:14:15] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: MRT LDP draft
[20:14:16] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: MRT algorithm draft
[20:14:25] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: MRT IGP extensions
[20:15:04] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: MRT implementation status
[20:17:09] <Simon Romano> Presentation is over
[20:17:21] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Action
[20:17:22] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: FAR: A Fault-avoidance Routing Metho
[20:17:31] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Action
[20:17:46] <Giles Heron> is the slide upside down in the room?
[20:17:52] <Simon Romano> No!
[20:17:57] <SM> :D
[20:17:58] <Giles Heron> the title line is the right way up
[20:18:03] <Giles Heron> but the rest is upside down :)
[20:18:07] <Simon Romano> Sorry...this ihas been automated ppt conversion..
[20:18:13] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Difference between Ver-00 and ver-01 of
[20:18:19] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Actual application scenarios --HPC/Infin
[20:18:22] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: InfiniBand System with Protocol on Regul
[20:18:24] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Actual application scenarios --HPC/Infin
[20:18:25] <Giles Heron> all ok now
[20:18:38] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: Actual application scenarios – Online
[20:18:49] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: Comparison between FAR and OSPF (1)
[20:19:06] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: Comparison between FAR and OSPF (2)
[20:21:34] <Simon Romano> Slide 9: Comparison between FAR and OSPF (3)
[20:21:42] <Simon Romano> Slide 10: Comparison between FAR and OSPF (4)
[20:22:08] <Simon Romano> Slide 11: Comparison between FAR and OSPF (5)
[20:22:12] <Simon Romano> Slide 12: Comparison between FAR and OSPF (6)
[20:22:27] <Simon Romano> Slide 13: Comparison between FAR and OSPF (7)
[20:22:42] <Simon Romano> Slide 14: Comparison between FAR and OSPF (8)
[20:23:15] <Simon Romano> Slide 15: How we addressed the issues
[20:23:36] <Simon Romano> Slide 16: (4)‘seem to ignore the point about fas
[20:23:49] <Simon Romano> Slide 17: How we addressed the issues
[20:24:04] <Simon Romano> Slide 18: Test data and analysis
[20:24:22] <Simon Romano> Slide 19: Requested actions from the WG
[20:24:50] <Simon Romano> Slide 20: .
[20:25:24] <Simon Romano> Presentation is over
[20:25:40] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Outline
[20:25:41] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: Dynamic Path Selection Based on Applicat
[20:25:55] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Outline
[20:26:13] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: PROBLEM STATEMENT
[20:26:16] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: DPS Business Case
[20:26:34] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: DPS Core Objectives
[20:26:36] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: DPS Business Case
[20:26:37] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: PROBLEM STATEMENT
[20:26:40] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: DPS Business Case
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[20:27:23] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: DPS Core Objectives
[20:28:22] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: DPS Frame Work
[20:28:24] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: DPS Architectural frame work
[20:30:52] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: Dynamic Path Selection Based on Applicat
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[20:31:01] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: DPS Architectural frame work
[20:31:35] <Simon Romano> Slide 9: DPS Use Cases
[20:31:58] <Simon Romano> Slide 10: DPS Use Cases
[20:33:49] <Simon Romano> Slide 11: DPS Use Cases
[20:33:54] <Simon Romano> Slide 12: Hierarchical DPS
[20:34:01] <Simon Romano> Slide 11: DPS Use Cases
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[20:34:49] <Simon Romano> Slide 12: Hierarchical DPS
[20:35:34] <Simon Romano> Slide 13: DPS Use Cases
[20:36:02] <Simon Romano> Slide 14: One Way DPS
[20:36:47] <Simon Romano> Slide 15: Questions???
[20:37:53] <Simon Romano> Presentation is over
[20:38:15] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Discussion of TIME
[20:38:30] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Background
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[20:39:13] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: The Problem
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[20:40:27] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: The Problem
[20:41:00] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: Strong Technology Dependencies
[20:42:43] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: Weakness of Cross-Layer OAM
[20:42:52] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: Lack of OAM above Layer 3
[20:44:30] <Simon Romano> Slide 9: Simple Case: Multiple Layer OAM
[20:44:58] <Simon Romano> Slide 10: Layering OAM architecture
[20:46:01] <Simon Romano> Slide 11: Issues of Abstraction (1)
[20:46:52] <Simon Romano> Slide 12: Issues of Abstraction (2)
[20:48:13] <Simon Romano> Slide 13: Planned TIME Activities
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