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[13:03:49] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Hi, I will not call out presentations unless someone requests this. Also, please specifically state if you want something relayed to the mic.
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[13:04:37] <stewart.bryant> ... and what about those of us on meetecho?
[13:04:48] <stewart.bryant> Soory - wrong window
[13:05:06] <Wes George> I'm in another WG session, I'd appreciate that you notify the jabber room before the last presentation starts (ILA) so that I can come over
[13:05:30] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Wes, ok, I'll try to say that.
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[13:05:38] <Wes George> thanks
[13:07:47] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Jeff Haas at mic
[13:08:54] <jch> Rather than repeating the name orally, I find it more useful when it is repeated on Jabber.  More work for the Jabber scribe, granted, but easier to follow.  (Not for mic.)
[13:09:42] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> jch, I agree with you, but that also means people will have to be in the jabber room (including the minute takers)
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[13:37:19] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Acee Lindem at mic
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[13:39:44] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Acee Lindem at mic
[13:39:57] <Christian Hopps> The joke is getting really old
[13:40:01] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> yes.
[13:40:19] <Christian Hopps> Just say your name, and let the chair repeat as requested
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[13:47:31] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Juliuz Chrobozek at mic
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[13:48:09] <jch> Missed a c.  Chroboczek
[13:48:19] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> thanks
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[13:48:46] <Christian Hopps> ha!
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[13:58:25] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Acee Lindem at mic
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[13:59:41] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Sue Hares at mic
[13:59:49] <Ross Callon> repeating the names is very useful for those of us on Meetecho (in this case I happen to personally know nearly all of the participants, but even as an old-time IETF participant it is often impossible to hear names the first time)
[14:00:25] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> ross, I agree, I think the way of the person saying their name ONCE, then chairs repeating the name ONCE, and then it also being captured here on jabber, is the way to go.
[14:00:46] <akatlas> I agree - and not specifying company name
[14:01:00] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> I am going to suggest to the IETF leadership that the chair next to the front mic is reserved for the jabber scribe so he/she can look at nametags and get spelling right
[14:01:18] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Xufeng Liu at mic
[14:01:40] <John Scudder> The company name thing is funny. I'm sympathetic, but then again why do we put affiliations prominently on the front page of RFCs then?
[14:02:12] <John Scudder> Sorry, probably better to move this tangent somewhere else if wanted to continue.
[14:02:25] <akatlas> true - we can chat.  I do agree that having someone repeat it is awkward.
[14:03:27] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> the note under the mic only says to state name, not affiliation.
[14:04:23] <John Scudder> I'd love to continue but again, I'm trying to be sensitive to the fact people are trying to have a meeting in this jabber room and it's about something other than IETF process and etiquette.
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[14:04:50] <Adrian Farrel> @Mikael: Jabber chair. Nice. You can mention to Alia. I will mention to Secretariat. Presume table is essential
[14:05:19] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Acee Lindem at mic
[14:05:22] <akatlas> @Mikael:  it is a fine idea
[14:05:35] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> adrian, yes, table is very helpful.
[14:06:09] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> I have at times asked people to yield the table/chair next to the mic and people have so far been sympathetic. Making it kind of official would be even better.
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[14:08:17] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Alia Atlas at mic
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[14:11:18] <Chris Bowers> We'll be starting ILA at 11:30 (compared to 11:20 in the agenda)
[14:11:27] <Wes George> thanks
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[14:22:14] <Adrian Farrel> @Mikael: Reserved jabber scribe seat now registered with Secretariat as an idea and tracked on their meeting-planning wiki
[14:22:51] <akatlas> @Adrian:  thanks!
[14:23:57] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Chris Hopps remotely
[14:25:25] <Jeffrey Haas> @wes - ila presentation coming up in 5 min.
[14:25:51] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Acee Lindem at mic
[14:26:15] <Wes George> ok thanks
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[14:52:19] <cbowers> that question regarding identifiers not being predictable was from Chris Bowers
[14:52:39] <cbowers> who failed to say his own name
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[14:53:57] <jch> How's that for an understatement.  (Not for mic.)
[14:54:09] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> jch: there were some chuckles here in the room.
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[15:07:04] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> Mikael again
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[15:08:50] <Mikael Abrahamsson (scribe)> thanks all, leaving
[15:08:56] <Christian Hopps> Thanks all Ciao!
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[15:09:04] <cbowers> ciao
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