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[23:21:58] <Christian Martin> Ida and Rob present use cases
[23:22:03] <Christian Martin> Stefano presents use cases
[23:22:21] <Christian Martin> Discussion underway regading making the use cases draft a WG item
[23:22:39] <Christian Martin> Joh Scudder: make your concerns known on the mailing list
[23:22:56] <Christian Martin> Scribe: Sorry for the delay - Adium problem
[23:22:59] <Christian Martin> Scribing ....
[23:23:01] <Christian Martin> Next up
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[23:23:22] <Christian Martin> Stefano Previdi - Presenting segment routing architecture
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[23:36:52] <Christian Martin> Stewart
[23:36:56] <Christian Martin> Comncern on RH0
[23:37:04] <Christian Martin> OPS and INT ADs had extreme heartburn
[23:38:12] <Christian Martin> Huawei speaker: Unintelligible
[23:39:23] <Christian Martin> Huawei SPeaker: We have Unicast SR for MPLS, what about multicast
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[23:39:51] <John Scudder> speaker was lizhenbin@huawei.com ("Robin")
[23:40:45] <Christian Martin> I thought hat was it: Robin
[23:41:46] <Christian Martin> Stefano: It's not the number of links vs nodes
[23:41:53] <Christian Martin> It;s the complexity of the path
[23:42:07] <Christian Martin> In response to Robin:
[23:42:37] <Christian Martin> Dino comments that there may be unicast-like options
[23:42:41] <Christian Martin> for multicast
[23:44:08] <Christian Martin> Some considerations around label stack depth
[23:44:29] <Christian Martin> Ahmed: label stack depth is not an issue
[23:45:16] <Christian Martin> Ed Crabbe: Label stack depth may impose some issues for certain environments (older hardware, complex label stacks)
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[23:45:39] <Christian Martin> Rob Shakir: we can publish anonymized data analysis similar to RLFA
[23:46:02] <Wes George> "if you have a small MTU, perhaps you shouldn't use up half of it on labels" :-)
[23:48:31] <Christian Martin> Ack, Wes
[23:48:50] <Christian Martin> Dino : would be useful to introduce as little change as possible
[23:48:54] <Christian Martin> less is better
[23:49:11] <Christian Martin> Robert Raszuk - BGP Vector routing does jkust that - 1 new BGP attribute
[23:49:16] <John Scudder> Wes, was that for the mic or just the peanut gallery?
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[23:49:42] <John Scudder> I will assume the peanut gallery
[23:50:15] <Christian Martin> Robin; comments on mpls data plane
[23:50:19] <Christian Martin> complexity tradeoff
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[23:50:35] <Christian Martin> Hannes Gredler: draft-gredler-spring-mpls
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[23:57:46] <Christian Martin> Greg Mirsky: Second bullet: Segment List = MPLS Label stack
[23:58:00] <Christian Martin> Greg: This isn't explicitly true
[23:58:14] <Christian Martin> John Scudder
[23:58:27] <Christian Martin> are you saying that every label isnt a segment
[23:58:44] <Christian Martin> Peter Lothberg: Hpw does this apply to IPv6
[23:59:01] <Christian Martin> Hannes: This is only for the MPLS dataplane
[23:59:29] <Christian Martin> Stefano: In Segment Routing, a segment can also identify an OAM instruction (or any other kind)
[23:59:54] <Christian Martin> Here, this looks like an improvemen, why not get rid of RSVP in the core
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