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[00:01:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: STRAW
[00:01:05] <ben (scribe)> session starting
[00:01:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> Relatore corrente: Chairs
[00:01:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: STRAW
[00:01:17] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: NOTE WELL
[00:01:20] <Simon Romano> Hello everybody! Meetecho is @ www.meetecho.com/ietf84/straw
[00:01:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: AGENDA
[00:01:31] <Simon Romano> If you already are in the IETF jabber room, please remember to use a diffrent nickname when you also log into Meetecho.
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[00:03:05] <ben (scribe)> Gonzalo at mike
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[00:03:13] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentation stopped
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[00:03:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: Sip Traversal Required for Applications
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[00:03:32] <Lorenzo Miniero> Relatore corrente: Hadriel Kaplan
[00:03:33] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: Sip Traversal Required for Applications
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[00:05:16] <ben (scribe)> fiddling with powerpoint
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[00:06:29] <ben (scribe)> starting—hadriel presenting
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[00:06:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: The Problem(s)
[00:06:59] <ben (scribe)> If anyone would like a comment taken to the mike, please prefix it with "mike:"
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[00:08:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Lawyers vs. Humans
[00:09:59] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Taking Small Sips not Gulps
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[00:11:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Straw Chairs
[00:12:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Initial Milestones
[00:12:26] <ben (scribe)> Mary asks which chair is for Christer and for Victor
[00:12:31] <ben (scribe)> (not from mike)
[00:12:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentation stopped
[00:12:48] <ben (scribe)> Chair: The milestone list on slide is not current
[00:13:07] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: A Taxonomy of SIP B2BUAs
[00:13:23] <ben (scribe)> Daryl Malas at mike
[00:15:02] <ben (scribe)> Daryl: While this helps things cross a b2bua, it can't guarantee that everything works _past_ the UA. We can't promise to solve all the world's problem.
[00:16:01] <ben (scribe)> Hadriel: Whatever the RFC covers, should work.
[00:16:08] <ben (scribe)> Robert at mike
[00:16:30] <ben (scribe)> charter doesn't say solve everything. It should improve things in some circumstances
[00:16:42] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: The Problem(s)
[00:17:49] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: So how many B2BUA types are there?
[00:18:30] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: The not-so-OSI B2BUA layer model
[00:19:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Proxy-B2BUA
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[00:21:00] <ben (scribe)> keith at mike
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[00:21:27] <ben (scribe)> paul kizavit at mike
[00:23:15] <ben (scribe)> keith drage at mike
[00:24:04] <ben (scribe)> Andrew Allen at mike
[00:24:40] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Signaling-only B2BUA
[00:25:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Media-relay B2BUA
[00:26:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Signaling-only B2BUA
[00:26:20] <ben (scribe)> missed speaker name
[00:27:58] <ben (scribe)> Andrew back at mike
[00:28:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Media-relay B2BUA
[00:28:05] <Muthu A.M Perumal> right, signaling-only B2BUA could filter/modify/add codecs in SDP
[00:28:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: Media-Aware B2BUA
[00:29:01] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: Media-termination B2BUA
[00:29:44] <ben (scribe)> Keith at mike
[00:30:49] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: Open Issues
[00:31:52] <ben (scribe)> paul k at mike
[00:34:33] <ben (scribe)> keith drage at mike
[00:35:31] <ben (scribe)> Parthad
[00:35:33] <ben (scribe)> at mike
[00:37:01] <ben (scribe)> martin dolly at mike
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[00:39:08] <ben (scribe)> Daryl at mike
[00:41:22] <ben (scribe)> Christer at mike
[00:41:36] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentation stopped
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[00:41:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: Loop detection mechanisms for SIP B2BUAs
[00:42:02] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: The Problem(s)
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[00:43:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Not The Solution
[00:44:04] <ben (scribe)> scary animated spiral on slide
[00:44:28] <ben (scribe)> cullen at slide
[00:44:37] <ben (scribe)> sorry, mike
[00:45:18] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: The Solution
[00:47:06] <ben (scribe)> robert at mike
[00:49:00] <ben (scribe)> andrew at mike
[00:49:24] <ben (scribe)> robert at mike
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[00:51:34] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: We need to get rid of loops in STRAW
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[00:52:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: A straw-man proposal for a media-based traceroute function for SIP
[00:52:44] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: The Problem(s)
[00:54:03] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Can’t we use Max-Forwards?
[00:55:11] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: The Proposed Solution
[00:56:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Open Issues
[00:57:18] <ben (scribe)> brian rosen at mike
[00:58:29] <ben (scribe)> martin at mike
[00:58:40] <ben (scribe)> martin dolly at mike
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[00:59:52] <ben (scribe)> paul at mike
[01:01:48] <ben (scribe)> dale at mike
[01:03:11] <ben (scribe)> daryl at mike
[01:06:10] <ben (scribe)> brian at mike
[01:07:55] <ben (scribe)> andrew at mike
[01:08:28] <ben (scribe)> martin at mike
[01:09:11] <ben (scribe)> martin still at mike
[01:10:05] <Jonathan Lennox> btw are straw's jabber logs online? I'm getting a 404 from the tools agenda link
[01:10:25] <Jonathan Lennox> i.e. http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/straw
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[01:11:26] <ben (scribe)> daryl at mike
[01:11:47] <ben (scribe)> I get the 404 also
[01:13:22] <ben (scribe)> martin at mike
[01:14:28] <Jonathan Lennox> I've emailed ietf-action
[01:14:42] <ben (scribe)> daryl at mike
[01:15:35] <ben (scribe)> Jonathan: If they fix it, there won't be much here except speaker names.
[01:15:58] <Jonathan Lennox> Ok
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[01:16:46] <ben (scribe)> Next Step Slides
[01:16:46] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: NEXT STEPS
[01:18:01] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: NEXT STEPS
[01:18:39] <ben (scribe)> keith at mike
[01:19:40] <Jonathan Lennox> (Link is now fixed)
[01:19:44] <ben (scribe)> daryl at mike
[01:20:13] <ben (scribe)> paul at mike
[01:20:42] <Lorenzo Miniero> Jonathan, if you missed the section we'll publish the recordings soon
[01:20:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> a few days at max
[01:21:02] <Lorenzo Miniero> *the session sorry
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[01:21:13] <ben (scribe)> meeting adjourned
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