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[01:55:44] <David Waltermire> Good morning!
[01:55:51] <Brendan Moran> good morning!
[01:57:02] <Martin Pagel> Guten Morgen
[01:57:19] <David Waltermire> Hi Brendan and Martin.
[02:00:29] <David Waltermire> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-103-suit?useMonospaceFont=true
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[02:01:41] Rich Salz has set the subject to: SUIT at IETF 103
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[02:01:55] <Rich Salz> administrivia.
[02:01:56] <Rich Salz> note well
[02:02:30] <Rich Salz> minutes being taken in eitherpad:  https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-103-suit
[02:02:36] <Rich Salz> WG status report
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[02:04:00] <Rich Salz> Milestones
[02:04:18] <Rich Salz> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-103-suit-milestones/00/
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[02:06:24] <Rich Salz> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-103-suit-liaison-statement-from-itu-t-sg17/00/
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[02:06:36] <Rich Salz> SUIT Liaison statement from itu-t-sg-17
[02:06:48] <Rich Salz> terminology in previous liaison statement
[02:08:18] <Rich Salz> terminology in this liaison statement
[02:09:04] <David Waltermire> Liason statement URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1598/
[02:10:03] <Rich Salz> figure 1 diagram
[02:11:38] <Rich Salz> figure 4 diagram "there is a status tracker taking care of multiple IoT devices"
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[02:13:31] <Rich Salz> p6 Deson't define protocols or formats
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[02:14:59] <synp> Nict Takahashi
[02:15:03] <Rich Salz> tnx :)
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[02:16:19] <Brendan Moran> I'll volunteer
[02:16:35] <Rich Salz> p7 questions
[02:16:43] <Brendan Moran> (to review the ITU-T-SG-17)
[02:17:24] <Rich Salz> Nict at mic
[02:17:50] <Rich Salz> Brendan, you want me to say that at the mic?
[02:18:12] <Brendan Moran> I don't think that's necessary.
[02:18:17] <Rich Salz> k
[02:18:50] <Rich Salz> juan-carlos zuniga
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[02:19:54] <Rich Salz> Robin Wilton
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[02:21:21] <Rich Salz> Hannes speaking https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-103-suit-hackathon-report/00/
[02:22:55] <Rich Salz> p2 The Group
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[02:23:23] <Rich Salz> p3 Lots of hardware
[02:23:29] <David Waltermire> Thank you to everyone that participated!
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[02:24:10] <Rich Salz> p4 Pictures, labelled "laptop" at the top
[02:25:53] <Rich Salz> MCUs…
[02:27:49] <Rich Salz> Verifying and booting
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[02:30:47] <Rich Salz> vector table (table 61)
[02:32:48] <Rich Salz> p9 what we learned
[02:34:17] <Rich Salz>     Carsten at the mic
[02:34:38] <Rich Salz> group picture
[02:34:54] <David Waltermire> Great work!
[02:35:23] <Rich Salz> more info
[02:36:29] <Rich Salz> architecture and information model.  hannes.  no slides.
[02:41:36] <Rich Salz> no name, no tag at the mic.  sad!
[02:41:56] <Rich Salz> hannes
[02:44:06] <Rich Salz> hannes
[02:44:20] <David Waltermire> Name?
[02:44:55] <Rich Salz> Gurshabad Grover, CIS
[02:45:04] <Rich Salz> Carsten
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[02:46:38] <Rich Salz> hannes
[02:48:15] <Rich Salz> discussion of serialization formats
[02:49:06] <Rich Salz> Henk at the floor.  No slides.
[02:50:46] <Rich Salz> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-103-suit-draft-moran-suit-manifest-03/00/
[02:50:51] <Rich Salz> Brendan Moran presenting
[02:51:43] <Rich Salz> p2 Changes from …
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[02:52:30] <Rich Salz> p4 cose_digest
[02:53:28] <Rich Salz> p5 cose_digest cddl
[02:53:55] <Rich Salz> p6 cose_digest algorithm identifiers
[02:54:16] <Rich Salz> p7 example 1 (1/3)
[02:55:22] <Rich Salz> p8 example 2/3
[02:55:29] <Rich Salz> p9 example 1 3/3
[02:55:32] <Rich Salz> p10 example 2 1/3
[02:55:39] <Rich Salz> p11 example 2 2/3
[02:55:43] <Rich Salz> (whew, network glitched)
[02:55:53] <Rich Salz> p12 example 3 1/4
[02:57:08] <Rich Salz> p14 example 3 2/4
[02:57:26] <Rich Salz> p15
[02:58:08] <David Waltermire> For the hash algorithms, why not reuse the IDs from the Named Information Hash Algorithm Registry https://www.iana.org/assignments/named-information/named-information.xhtml?
[02:58:10] <Rich Salz> p17 example 4 1/2
[02:58:21] <Rich Salz> @David is that a question for the mic?
[02:58:35] <David Waltermire> I'll jump in at the end.
[02:58:44] <Rich Salz> k
[02:59:17] <Rich Salz> p19 summary of changes
[03:01:08] <Rich Salz> p20 summary of changes, 2/2
[03:03:21] <Meetecho> David, we can't hear you in Meetecho either
[03:03:31] <David Waltermire> I wanted to ask about the Named Information Hash Algorithm Registry
[03:03:36] <David Waltermire> yep
[03:03:48] <David Waltermire> There are IDs
[03:03:59] <Rich Salz> Henk at the mic
[03:04:24] <David Waltermire> Thanks.
[03:04:42] <Rich Salz> Manuel? Pocelli?
[03:05:53] <Barry Leiba> Emmanuel Baccelli
[03:09:03] <Rich Salz> Thanks.
[03:09:04] <Rich Salz> Hannes
[03:10:12] <Rich Salz> Martin Pagel, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-103-suit-binary-manifest-format/01/
[03:11:55] <Rich Salz> p3, simple to process
[03:14:14] <Rich Salz> p4 small memory requirements
[03:15:15] <Rich Salz> p5 while still powerful
[03:16:11] <Rich Salz> p6 update server
[03:18:23] <Rich Salz> p7 manifest format diagram
[03:19:56] <Rich Salz> p8 implementation
[03:21:15] <Rich Salz> p9 questions
[03:21:25] <Rich Salz> Hannes at the mic
[03:23:25] <Rich Salz> Juan-Carlos
[03:25:15] <Rich Salz> Hannes
[03:30:36] <synp> Zack Shelby
[03:30:41] <Rich Salz> tnx
[03:31:44] <synp> Rich Salz
[03:32:23] <Rich Salz> Ming lee.
[03:33:16] <Rich Salz> Hannes
[03:36:34] <David Waltermire> Just in char: You could probably use a purpose built, domain specific parser for the CBOR manifest format instead of a generalized CBOR parser to save on code size.
[03:36:43] <Rich Salz> Alexander Pelov
[03:36:47] <David Waltermire> If that matters
[03:36:57] <Rich Salz> Agree on both those points David :)
[03:37:51] <Rich Salz> Henk
[03:38:57] <Rich Salz> Hannes
[03:39:05] <Martin Pagel> can we get the camera for the speakers?
[03:40:10] <Rich Salz> Dave Thaler
[03:43:06] <David Waltermire> mic: Is Martin's proposal intended to address the industrial application scenario that Dave is referencing?
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[03:44:39] <Rich Salz> k
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[03:46:42] <Martin Pagel> yes, David
[03:46:52] <David Waltermire> ok. thanks.
[03:47:08] <Rich Salz> Eliot Lear
[03:48:08] <Rich Salz> Zach Shelby
[03:48:48] <David Waltermire> As a participant: +1 on a single information model.
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[03:50:10] <Rich Salz> Juan Carlos
[03:51:37] <Martin Pagel> yes, architecture and information model are most important to build a multi vendor update infrastructure
[03:52:01] <Rich Salz> Ming Pei
[03:52:16] <Rich Salz> (Who I mis-identified as Ming Lee before.  Apologies)
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[03:52:50] <Rich Salz> Carsten
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[03:55:08] <Rich Salz> Dave Robin
[03:58:15] <Rich Salz> Emmanuel
[04:00:02] <Rich Salz> Eliot
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[04:03:11] <Rich Salz> thank you folks, see you on the mailing list.
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[04:03:16] <David Waltermire> thanks!
[04:03:27] <Martin Pagel> thank you!
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