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[19:52:36] <mcr> hi  I am the jabber scribe. Please mic: if you want it relayed.
[19:53:35] mcr has set the subject to: TEEP BOF. Chicago IETF 98. March 28, 2017. Trusted Execution Environment Protocol.
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[19:56:02] <mcr> Hannes talking. TEEP BOF Overview.
[19:56:09] <mcr> who is remote?
[19:56:18] <mcr> Eliot, can you post the link to the etherpad?
[19:56:19] <Valery Smyslov> I am
[19:56:25] <Eliot Lear> note taking is in etherpad
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[19:56:31] <Eliot Lear> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/teepbof
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[20:01:59] <Eliot Lear> reminder: etherpad going on at http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/teepbof
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[20:11:49] <mcr> at mic.
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[20:18:42] <mcr> next, David from remote.
[20:19:06] <mcr> David Wheeler.
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[20:59:42] <mcr> Hannes at mic to answer above.
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[21:02:55] <mcr> Yaron Shaeffer at mic.
[21:04:23] <mcr> Hannes at the mic again, responding.
[21:06:01] <mcr> Erik Nordmark at mic, asking about access to documents.
[21:07:02] <mcr> Hannes at the mic again, responding.
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[21:07:26] <mcr> Erik again.
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[21:08:11] <mcr> Erik asks about uploading/download issue...?
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[21:09:14] <mcr> Hannes answering again.
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[21:10:31] <mcr> I think Erik was asking: could this mechanism be used by a nefarious (state?) actor to load/modify/subvert/corrupt a *regular* app on the device.
[21:10:45] <mcr> Chris Inacio at the mic.
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[21:11:55] <mcr> Hannes answering again.
[21:13:06] <mcr> Chris again.
[21:15:29] <mcr> Mark Orzo...ski.  (my eyes are going)
[21:15:44] <mcr> Hannes attempts to answer question about FIDO Alliance.
[21:16:20] <mcr> any questions from jabber.
[21:16:38] <mcr> that was Mark Orzechowski.
[21:17:12] <Dave Thaler> I am not sure that's what Erik was asking (that's not what I heard anyway :), but one can only corrupt a regular app if you've already broken the private key originally used to sign the regular app I would think.
[21:17:47] <mcr> Dave: google might well sign APKs, but Samsung might sign TEEP pieces.
[21:18:07] <mcr> So if you can't get Google/Apple to unlock some data, maybe you can get it done via TEEP.
[21:19:06] <mcr> it appears that it is mixed half/half as to knowing what we are doing.
[21:20:06] <mcr> thank you. we are done.
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[21:20:50] <Dave Thaler> it's fine for different components to be signed by different keys and still be bundled together in a distribution mechanism, but each part has the pass the relevant signature to be installed in its appropriate place
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