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[12:05:59] <yjs> I was just "volunteered" as jabber scribe
[12:06:05] <yjs> Thanks Mark
[12:06:14] <yjs> agenda bashing going on
[12:07:23] <yjs> milestones - progress being made
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[12:07:47] <yjs> expert review on architecture doc being done by IEEE 802.1
[12:08:04] <yjs> want review by IETF as well
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[12:11:13] <yjs> discussing problems with IEEE 802.1 format issues
[12:11:48] <yjs> clarifications concerning updates to 01 version
[12:13:06] <yjs> if you have problems with 01 document - you must send in text, otherwise never finish
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[12:14:32] <yjs> done with WG last call presentation
[12:14:59] <yjs> next - Eric Gray on architecture
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[12:18:31] <yjs> updated based on Donald's comments
[12:18:53] <yjs> routing requirements document - more issues on this one
[12:19:31] <yjs> issues: TTL, ECMP, scalability, CFT, etc all discussed on mailing list - need closure soon
[12:20:24] <yjs> wiring closet problem - want to use two links but due to not having STP only one will be used
[12:21:30] <yjs> solution discussed - pseudo-Rbridge (but need bridge network to resolve, so can detect that don't need)
[12:22:05] <yjs> one proposal - both bridges in wiring closet should be Rbridges (but if expensive, may not be reasonable)
[12:22:15] <yjs> non-cooperating Rbridges
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[12:26:20] <yjs> testing
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[12:26:51] <yjs> Eric still talking - jabber server still dropping unexpectedly
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[12:28:41] <yjs> long line at Mike with comments on Eric's scenarios (misconfigurations or out-of-syncs)
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[12:29:51] <yjs> TTL issues - OK for unicast, but flooding?
[12:30:28] <yjs> Radia's responses - subset of trees as spanning trees, or shortest path OSPF trees
[12:30:59] <yjs> related to CFT, CFT-IRT question
[12:33:40] <yjs> ECMP (and also multiple shared trees) wording is presently unclear
[12:33:48] <yjs> backwards congestion notification
[12:34:43] <yjs> relatively new, but need to understand better - problems with network size
[12:36:26] <yjs> questions and comments 1) will need BCN for large networks 2) how does encap inside interact with protocols outside?
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[12:46:38] <yjs> Eric will be going to 802.1 next week (Dallas)
[12:48:13] <yjs> Silvano Gai Silvano on proposed shim header
[12:48:46] <yjs> encapsulation animation
[12:50:15] <yjs> shows adding trill header and outside that the outer MAC header
[12:52:00] <yjs> Stewart asks about FCS - answer correct FCS so that it protects whole frame
[12:57:10] <yjs> hop limit - 6 bits, dec at each node
[12:59:37] <yjs> we need ingress and egress Rbridge addresses (conventional, BCN in CRED, ACLs, policy-based forwarding, troubleshooting)
[13:01:28] <yjs> discussing address space size
[13:12:17] <yjs> back online - still Silvano, discussing unicast multipathing
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[13:28:28] <yjs> Radia talking now
[13:29:41] <yjs> discussing ingress and egress address fields - which needed?
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