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[19:46:30] <mattz> not in the room, can't take notes this time :)
[19:48:07] <mattz> anyone there in the room? just curious
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[19:48:30] <fred@ecotroph.net> hello
[19:48:47] <mattz> I'm here, but in seattle physically
[19:48:52] <mattz> wish the agenda was on-line
[19:49:07] <fred@ecotroph.net> Mr Briscoe is coming to the mike to speak on ECN/BT as a CAC procedure.
[19:49:27] <fred@ecotroph.net> "adding accountability for causing congestion to TCP/IP"
[19:50:08] <mattz> (fwiw, I am listening to the audio, it's OK)
[19:50:27] <fred@ecotroph.net> OK - Pekka, Gorry, Lars?
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[19:51:10] <lars> in the room
[19:52:07] <gorryf> I'm in the room - what's the question?
[19:52:39] <fred@ecotroph.net> do we need a jabber scribe? I was starting to scribe, but I won't if there is no need
[19:53:07] <fred@ecotroph.net> you and lars are in the room, Matt is on the audio...
[19:53:10] <lars> if the audio is ok, maybe we can do without. we can relay jabber comments on the mike, sitting close to it
[19:53:18] <fred@ecotroph.net> ok
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[19:53:56] <cabo--tzi--org> A form of the agenda is online in http://onsite.ietf.org/proceedings/05nov/slides/tsvwg-0.txt
[19:54:39] <mattz> don't need a jabber scribe. otoh, sometimes you might catch something that the "official" note taker might miss.
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