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[14:00:18] <gorryf> TSVWG-1 at IETF-108 next ...
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[14:10:01] <gorryf> Greetings: Do we have an offer of a jabber scribe for this first session?
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[14:10:53] <spencerdawkins> Gorry, I can do that
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[14:11:50] <spencerdawkins> If you need something relayed to the meeting, please preface with "mic:"
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[14:13:13] <spencerdawkins> That did not sounc good.
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[14:13:20] <spencerdawkins> Other people getting audio?
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[14:13:27] <Daniel Havey> Audio?
[14:13:35] <Rodney Grimes> Sound been of low quality
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[14:13:48] <Jonathan Morton> also lost your slides
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[14:21:23] <Richard Scheffenegger> like yesterday...
[14:21:32] <spencerdawkins> In jabber?
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[14:22:06] <Bob Briscoe> Low Latency DOCSIS - 2 drafts (oine describes LLD, the other QProtection. Both with ISE
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[14:22:37] <Bob Briscoe> Yup
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[14:32:45] <Martin Duke> We should punt my quic-natsupp report to second section. something might come out of quic tomorrow
[14:32:54] <Martin Duke> s/section/session
[14:33:23] <David Black> @Martin - ok, noted ...
[14:33:24] <gorryf> GF-> sure, that makes sense
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[14:37:08] <Bob Briscoe> mic: the curent text mimics RFC3168, which is being updated in TCPM by AccECN. So it would only make sense to include ECN in SCTP if it goes straight for more accuracy, as in QUIC and TCP.
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[14:41:37] <Magnus Westerlund too> I have covered Bob's comments
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[14:45:06] <spencerdawkins> I love it when we make progress on a draft during IETF week. I wish I did that more often :-)
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[15:02:20] <Martin Duke> I wonder if we could have a draft that explained what DSCPs were truly safe to use given the research presented here
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[15:02:36] <Martin Duke> how much space is truly available given all these pathologies?
[15:03:18] <spencerdawkins> @Martin Duke - I think "safe" is relative, but having a reference that says "HOW safe" would be useful.
[15:04:04] <Martin Duke> @spencerdawkins I agree
[15:04:41] <spencerdawkins> @Martin Duke - this is why David Black has grey hair ...
[15:05:17] <Jonathan Morton> his name used to be more descriptive  :)
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[15:06:02] <gorryf> We also can allocated pool 3, if *needed*  ... but don’t get excited by that!
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[15:08:06] <spencerdawkins> Finishing early is because of the new ADs :D
[15:08:55] <Martin Duke> Mainly because the new AD did nothing on his draft :-\
[15:09:23] <Cullen Jennings> Theses new ADs need to stop slacking and send more work to the WG  :-)
[15:09:33] <spencerdawkins> @Martin Duke - you two are the only variables ;-)
[15:09:35] <Martin Duke> @cullen see higher in the thread
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[15:11:18] <Jonathan Morton> I think a general discussion of Diffserv might be profitable
[15:11:19] <Rodney Grimes> @DSCP topic, yes this would be a useful document to create
[15:12:16] <Rodney Grimes> Knowing where the dragons are is very helpful!
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[15:12:51] <Cullen Jennings> +1 to having that written down
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