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[10:15:54] <jlcjohn> (I'm getting no audio...)
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[10:16:40] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> meeting is about to start
[10:16:54] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> audio ok?
[10:17:01] <jlcjohn> audio good now
[10:18:08] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> cc-alt
[10:18:26] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> crosslayer
[10:18:28] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> fair
[10:18:53] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> cc-alt now
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[10:27:12] <mallman> joe should write text; this is beyond CC as he says and so outside the scope of this document
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[10:27:43] <magnus> I will bring it up
[10:27:50] <mallman> ok thanks
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[10:32:50] <mallman> it is guidance for people bringing things in about the sorts of evidence they should be bringing with them
[10:33:04] <mallman> saying "talk to the architecture" is too fuzzy
[10:34:15] <mallman> i think joe's phrasing is useful
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[10:35:36] <mallman> it is not intended to update 2914
[10:35:46] <mallman> this does not disagree with 2914
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[10:38:12] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> crosslayer now
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[10:53:47] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> fair-01 now
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[11:14:34] <mallman> saying that 'we dont have fairness now' is not quite right. we dont have perfect fairness. but, we could get MUCH worse. so, saying that we do not have to transition is sort of bogus, i think.
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[11:19:37] <cabo--tzi--org@jabber.org> meeting's done.
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