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[07:13:05] <bob.briscoe> Yup
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[07:14:28] <ietfdbh> metting starts
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[07:15:39] <ietfdbh> slides not working. going over the agenda.
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[07:15:58] <ietfdbh> byte and packet congestion slides
[07:16:14] <ietfdbh> jukka talking
[07:17:13] <ietfdbh> hopefully will start wglc soon.
[07:18:15] <ietfdbh> Joe Touch: port uses slides
[07:19:25] <ietfdbh> slide 2
[07:19:31] <jesup> Mic levels are over-driven and clipping badly if people aren't quiet
[07:19:52] <ietfdbh> 3
[07:19:58] <jesup> very hard to hear
[07:20:19] <ietfdbh> better?
[07:20:27] <jesup> worse
[07:20:44] <jesup> move away from mic...
[07:20:49] <Andrew McGregor> He can't
[07:20:57] <Andrew McGregor> I'll try and find the gain
[07:21:02] <jesup> thanks
[07:21:05] <becarpenter> Joe has a bit of a loud voice...
[07:23:21] <Andrew McGregor> No observable mixer and the UI on the radio mic receivers is in Chinese. Sorry, stuck with the sound the way it is.
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[07:25:06] <ietfdbh> ECN slides
[07:25:09] <ietfdbh> 1
[07:27:17] <ietfdbh> "additional reactions"
[07:28:18] <ietfdbh> "potential other reactions"
[07:29:09] <ietfdbh> "simulation"
[07:30:01] <ietfdbh> simulation with gradual conestion (2)
[07:30:11] <ietfdbh> defauilt reaction
[07:30:47] <ietfdbh> questions/issues
[07:32:20] <bob.briscoe> The draft says its scope is reactions to ECN CE. Is it really reactions to congestion indications, whether loss or CE?
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[07:35:02] <bob.briscoe> Willco
[07:35:26] <ietfdbh> Joe Touch: Shared use of TCP expeirmental options
[07:35:53] <ietfdbh> 2
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[07:37:23] <ietfdbh> 3
[07:37:48] <ietfdbh> 4
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[07:39:16] <ietfdbh> slide 5
[07:40:20] <ietfdbh> 6
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[07:41:14] <ietfdbh> 7
[07:42:26] <ietfdbh> 8
[07:44:58] <ietfdbh> 9
[07:46:47] <ietfdbh> 10
[07:50:02] <bob.briscoe> Don't see why this is INF or BCP. Surely if we're going to do it, it should be STD track?
[07:52:19] <ietfdbh> tim shepherd
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[07:55:02] <bob.briscoe> In response to Tim Shepard's first point: the problem isn't whether my experiment alone works, it's whether someone else's experiment stops mine working and whether mine stops someone else's. The second point about getting off an experiment is a valid criticism of all our approach's incl. Joe's.
[07:57:04] <ietfdbh> noted. will pass on.
[08:05:24] <ietfdbh> time crunch; NOT passing on comments.
[08:05:47] <ietfdbh> a few hums for not-tsvwg.
[08:06:01] <ietfdbh> Towards extending the TCP Option Space:
[08:06:10] <ietfdbh> slide 1 motivation
[08:06:53] <ietfdbh> 2
[08:07:03] <ietfdbh> middleboxes
[08:07:36] <ietfdbh> 3
[08:07:41] <ietfdbh> option 1
[08:09:25] <ietfdbh> option 2
[08:11:25] <touch> Answer to Bob B about whether the previous doc should be INF/BCP vs. STD track - there are no codepoint assignments nor are there any hard requirements. TCP doesn't interpret the field. That's why it doesn't seem like a STD to me (glad to hear views otherwise, though)
[08:11:28] <ietfdbh> "please contrinbute"
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[08:15:17] <ietfdbh> meeting over
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