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Yoav Nir has set the subject to: UTA Meeting - IETF 92 - http://tools.ietf.org/wg/uta/agenda?item=agenda-92-uta.html
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[15:43:09] <Viktor Dukhovni> The mic is very crackly...
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[15:43:31] Yoav Nir has set the subject to: UTA Meeting - IETF 93
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[15:44:01] <Yoav Nir> Viktor: is it still so?
[15:44:11] <Viktor Dukhovni> Yes...
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[15:44:33] <Viktor Dukhovni> Getting better now.
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[15:44:57] <Yoav Nir> Meetecho: audio is crackly remotely
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[15:45:30] <Yoav Nir> Chris Newman presenting
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[15:45:58] <Meetecho> Yoav Nir: monitoring now but it sounds fine
[15:46:00] <Yoav Nir> slide #5
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[15:46:34] <Yoav Nir> Meetecho: Viktor complained while the chairs were talking. Different mic, although they both feed fine to the room speakers
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[15:46:43] <Yoav Nir> Slide #6
[15:46:47] <Meetecho> tnx for the heads up, we'll keep on monitoring
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[15:48:04] <Keith Moore> I concur with Chris that we could wait to define a general public key pinning spec for email.
[15:48:05] <Kurt> regarding ask for deployment data on 465 vs. 587 - I'll make an inquiry amongst the members of M3AAWG for you
[15:48:08] <Viktor Dukhovni> Apple's Mail.app supports pinning today, I rather like that.
[15:48:32] <Viktor Dukhovni> I've read the -00
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[15:49:26] <Yoav Nir> Viktor: pinning is an HTTP header. How can Mail.app do it?  Or is it just when accessing Exchange servers through EWS?
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[15:50:50] <Keith Moore> someone tell Chris that Kurt has volunteered to poll M3AAWG on ports
[15:50:57] <Viktor Dukhovni> In my experience 587 is more widespread.
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[15:51:13] <Viktor Dukhovni> Until recently Postfix did not support being a port 465 submission client.
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[15:51:43] <Viktor Dukhovni> 465 has only muddled on because of Outlook which lacked 587 support.
[15:51:56] <Viktor Dukhovni> All other email clients support 587.
[15:53:11] <Viktor Dukhovni> RFC 6186 interaction with DNSSEC needs more discussion.
[15:53:20] <Viktor Dukhovni> Relay: I will review
[15:54:09] <Keith Moore> mic: to clarify, are we expecting reviews prior to WGLC, or are these people volunteering to review as part of WGLC?
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[15:56:26] <Viktor Dukhovni> I am quite confident that 587 is well established for SMTP and switching to 465 is not compelling.  The only holdout I am aware of is old Outlook versions.
[15:56:44] <Keith Moore> I guess it doesn't matter too much as long as there's not much diff between the reviewed version and the version that is last called.
[15:58:46] <Yoav Nir> Pascal Urien presenting on "TLS and DTLS Security Modules"
[16:00:43] <Yoav Nir> slide #2
[16:00:54] <Yoav Nir> slide #3
[16:03:27] <Yoav Nir> (ISO7816 is standards for smartcards)
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[16:05:22] <Yoav Nir> slide #5
[16:05:39] <Yoav Nir> slide #6
[16:06:29] <Yoav Nir> slide #7
[16:07:02] <Yoav Nir> slide #8
[16:07:13] <Yoav Nir> slide #9
[16:07:58] <Yoav Nir> slide #10
[16:10:17] <Yoav Nir> slide #11
[16:11:21] <Viktor Dukhovni> What is the UTA relevance of this draft?  What sort of applications is this targetted at?
[16:11:58] <Yoav Nir> Viktor: mic?
[16:12:05] <Viktor Dukhovni> Sure.
[16:12:50] <Keith Moore> I'm wondering the same thing.
[16:21:47] <Viktor Dukhovni> I might once again have cycles for that.  Now that the DANE drafts are done.
[16:21:51] <Viktor Dukhovni> Relay:
[16:22:44] <Keith Moore> mic: of possible interest to this WG is draft-moore-smtp-addrquery , which is an extension to SMTP to allow clients to query mail exchangers for information about the email addresses for which they accept mail.   Such information might include public keys, and TLS is used to authenticate the information obtained.  (will CC list also)
[16:23:10] <sftcd> https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-friedl-uta-smtp-mta-certs-00.html
[16:26:29] <Viktor Dukhovni> mic: any need to publsh BCP for opportunistic TLS?
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