Re: [gaia] RG Last Call: draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments-02

Hi, Arjuna and all, 

In my opinion, in order to clarify if "Alternative network" =
"Complementary network", we should answer two questions: 

A) Are all "Alternative networks" also "Complementary networks"? 

In the draft we are considering five kinds of networks: 

1 Community Networks 
2 Wireless Internet Service Providers WISPs
3 Shared infrastructure model
4 Crowdshared approaches, led by the people and third party stakeholders

5 Testbeds for research purposes

In the case of 4, it is clear that they are a "complement," since they
share the infrastructure and may reduce the CAPEX of the operator. 

In the case of 1, they may become a "complement". Is this currently
happening? 

I don't think that WISPs (2) usually share their infrastructure with
traditional operators. Am I right? 

B) Are all "Complementary networks" also "Alternative networks"? 

I think for example in the Wi-Fi network of an airport. This network can
be considered as "complementary", because it may be used to offload data
from the mobile network. But it is not "alternative" (it is not included
in the draft), because it may be promoted by a traditional operator (not
by the people), etc. 

Any other ideas? 

Thanks, 

Jose 

El 2015-12-12 13:45, Arjuna Sathiaseelan escribió: 

> Thanks Mat. 
> 
> I have been recently discussing with Roger from Guifi about whether community networks should be termed as Alternative Networks or should it be called Complimentary Networks considering that community networks could end up sharing infrastructure with network operators who could see this as a great opportunity to access the last mile without a CAPEX. 
> 
> So is Alternative Networks the right terminology or should we have Complimentary Networks? 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> On 1 December 2015 at 16:28, Mat Ford <ford@isoc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> I think it's time we tried to conclude our work on draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Jose detailed the changes in the most recent update when he announced the update to the list, so I won't repeat those here. I have not seen any further discussion.
>> 
>> If you have any concerns or further comments regarding the content of this document, please raise them on this mailing list by Tuesday December 15th. I hope to initiate IRSG review of the document immediately thereafter.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mat
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