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Re: RFC compliance and the European Parliament

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Mon, 09 June 2014 16:04 UTC

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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:55:49 -0700
To: JOSEFSSON Erik <erik.josefsson@europarl.europa.eu>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: RFC compliance and the European Parliament
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Hi Erik,

I am copying this message to ietf@ietf.org instead of the perpass 
mailing list as the question is not related to surveillance.

At 04:00 09-06-2014, JOSEFSSON Erik wrote:
>I need help from the standards community with regards to 
>RFC-compliance in the European Parliament.
>
>I reach out here because I believe you expect your work on improving 
>the internet will be implemented, maybe in particular by public 
>bodies we hold to a higher standard wrt transparency than others[0].
>
>In an Access to Documents request the EP just stated that 
>"conformity with RFC-5321 section 3.9 is by nature outside EP's 
>responsibilities" [1].
>
>Do you agree? Are there RFCs which correct implementation would, by 
>nature, fall within the responsibilities of the EP?

I read the reply.  In my opinion the text quoted (above) from the 
reply conveys a different meaning.  My understanding of that part of 
the reply is that mailing lists managed outside that email system is 
outside EP's responsibility.  The question you asked could be stated 
as follows:

   Is it the responsibility of the EP to set the standards for email systems
   to adhere to?

>Please find a link to our documentation of the particular issue with 
>RFC-5321 section 3.9 below[2]

The issue in that document is about whether the mail relays for 
europarl.europa.eu can reject a message from a (external) mailing 
list if the "From:" header contains "europarl.europa.eu" as the 
domain part.  There is be a mail delivery problem if the external 
email system implements and follows what is written in RFC 5321.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

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