[IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review of draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel-00
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Tue, 22 October 2013 00:26 UTC
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Subject: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review of draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel-00
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Hi, all, I've reviewed the following doc for TSVDIR: draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel-00 Although this is not intended as a complete TSVDIR review, I have checked for the typical issues. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------- draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel-00 This doc makes the case that IKEv2 can provide a secure data channel for arbitrary communication, rather than being used (as designed) to configure IPsec channels for that purpose. This mechanism lacks congestion control, and so needs to be used only where its load is known to be a small fraction of capacity. In specific, IKE's window mechanism allows for increasing the window size but not decreasing it, as is needed to react to network congestion. The acknowledged data transfer mode uses IKE's window mechanism, which is presumably set to a small value, and may result in very low throughput. Attempts to increase this window size to overcome this limitation can easily increase burstiness and network loss. This mechanism includes its own fragmentation mechanism based on a pre-configiured MTU, where it should use an adaptive size based on PLMTUD (RFC4821). The mechanism described replicates that of IP, and so introduces no new issues. Fragment reassembly appears to rely on the IKE sequence number, and the relationship between the two should be more clear, especially on the reuse of the IKE sequence number and how that affects reassembly timeout. ---
- [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-i… Joe Touch
- [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review of draft-amjads-ipsecme… Joe Touch
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review ofdraft-ietf-ipsecm… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review ofdraft-ietf-ipsecm… Joe Touch
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review ofdraft-ietf-ipsecm… Paul Wouters
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review ofdraft-ietf-ipsecm… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review ofdraft-ietf-ipsecm… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review ofdraft-ietf-ipsecm… Joe Touch
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf-ipsecme… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf-ipsecme… Joe Touch
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf-ipsecme… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish review ofdraft-ietf-ipsecm… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf-ipsecme… Joe Touch
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Matt Mathis
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf-ipsecme… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Yoav Nir
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Yoav Nir
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Joe Touch
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf-ipsecme… Joe Touch
- Re: [IPsec] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf-ipsecme… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] [tsvwg] TSVDIR-ish reviewofdraft-ietf… Matt Mathis