[woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Sat, 19 March 2011 01:06 UTC

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Subject: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting
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Greetings. We would like to set the tone for the WOES meeting-that-is-not-a-BoF that will happen on Monday, March 28, in Prague. The meeting will be from 2000 to 2130 in the Karlin I room. Sean Turner has asked us (Lucy and Paul) to be the co-chairs for this meeting, and in turn we have assured him that neither of us want to chair an eventual WG, if it is chartered.

We believe that a reasonable schedule might be:

10 min introduction by Lucy and Paul
20 min discussion / presentation on draft-rescorla-jsms
20 min discussion / presentation on draft-jones-json-web-token
40 min discussion on what the rest of the community wants
and how it wants to proceed

For this meeting, we would like to talk almost exclusively about the format, not the many different places where such formatted objects might be used. This is based on an assumption that as long as the eventual format has just enough building blocks plus some well-scoped and well-designed extensibility, the discussion of where it can be used is actually better had in the respective WGs, not here.

We note that the two proposed formats should probably be called "the first two proposed formats": it is possible that there are others. The group needs to decide over time whether the desired outcome is one format or more than one format; history in the IETF indicates that this will not be an easy decision. Another discussion topic is what kinds of documents are needed other than format documents: is a requirements document (and possibly other non-format documents) needed?

We note that this is not a formal BoF, and we will not be the eventual leaders, so we are keeping this "agenda" informal as well. Please let us know what you think of this.

-- Lucy Lynch and Paul Hoffman

Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Joe Hildebrand
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Dick Hardt
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Bryan Geraghty
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Mike Jones
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Dick Hardt
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Mike Jones
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Joe Hildebrand
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Mike Jones
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Dick Hardt
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Mike Jones
Re: [woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Joe Hildebrand
[woes] Preparation for the WOES meeting Paul Hoffman