Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4772)
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Thu, 11 August 2016 19:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4772)
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FWIW, I see nothing in RFC5961 that implies that ACK throttling - or anything in the doc - should be across connections. This new doc can claim to clarify Sec 7 of that RFC, but I see no reason to deprecate it. Joe On 8/11/2016 9:27 AM, Loganaden Velvindron wrote: > I submitted this draft, yesterday.: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lvelvindron-ack-throttling-02 > > It's a work-in-progress, but I welcome feedback. > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:36 PM, RFC Errata System > <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote: >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5961, >> "Improving TCP's Robustness to Blind In-Window Attacks". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5961&eid=4772 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Technical >> Reported by: Stéphane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> >> >> Section: 7 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> [The entire section] >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> No suggested text because it requires a much more serious analysis. >> May be adding that the rate-limit counter SHOULD be per-connection, >> in the spirit of RFC 6528? >> >> Notes >> ----- >> It appears the section does not specify that the counter for ACK throttling SHOULD be per-connection. In Linux, it is apparently global, which allowed its use as a side channel enabling nasty attacks (CVE-2016-5696 and the paper "Off-Path TCP Exploits: Global Rate Limit Considered Dangerous" <http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~zhiyunq/pub/sec16_TCP_pure_offpath.pdf>) >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) >> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC5961 (draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure-13) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : Improving TCP's Robustness to Blind In-Window Attacks >> Publication Date : August 2010 >> Author(s) : A. Ramaiah, R. Stewart, M. Dalal >> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >> Source : TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions >> Area : Transport >> Stream : IETF >> Verifying Party : IESG >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tcpm mailing list >> tcpm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm >> > _______________________________________________ > tcpm mailing list > tcpm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Neal Cardwell
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Loganaden Velvindron
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Praveen Balasubramanian
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Loganaden Velvindron
- [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4772) RFC Errata System
- [tcpm] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5961 … RFC Errata System
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5961 (4… Loganaden Velvindron