Re: [xrblock] recommendations fordraft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-meas-identity
Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> Tue, 20 March 2012 05:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [xrblock] recommendations fordraft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-meas-identity
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Hi, Charles: Thank for your valuable comments. I agree that SDES part and XR Block part are a little bit mingled together in this version.. Your proposed change looks good to me. please see my replies below. Regards! -Qin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com> To: <xrblock@ietf.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:56 AM Subject: [xrblock] recommendations fordraft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-meas-identity >I am the document shepherd for draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-meas-identity. > I believe the content of the draft is generally in good shape. However, > I did find myself reading parts of the draft multiple times in order to > grasp some of the content completely. I think the draft would benefit > from some rearranging of pieces of the Introduction section, and that > doing so will improve flow and make it easier for the reader to digest. > > My main suggestions as follows: > > 1) Abstract > Current: > This document defines a RTCP SDES item and a RTCP XR Block carrying > parameters which identify a measurement, to which one or more other > RTCP XR Report Blocks may refer. > Proposed: > This document defines an RTCP SDES item and an RTCP XR Block carrying > parameters that identify and describe a measurement period, to which > one or more other RTCP XR Report Blocks may refer. [Qin]: Okay. > 2) Introduction > General Proposal: Consistently state the SDES item first, then the XR > block. For example: > Current: > This draft defines one new RTCP SDES item and one new XR Report Block > to carry parameters which identify a measurement for use in a range > of RTP applications. The XR Report Block and the SDES item do not > contain any measurement results (metrics). > Proposed: > This draft defines one new RTCP SDES item and one new XR Report Block > carrying parameters that identify and describe a measurement period, > to which > one or more other RTCP XR Report Blocks may refer. This SDES item and > XR Report > Block do not contain any measurement results (metrics). [Qin]: Okay. > Following this, I would hold off on the part that reads, "However, the > XR Report", keeping this sentence, the bulleted points that follow, and > the rest of the XR block specific information for later. Instead, I > would move directly to the text pertaining to the SDES time, removing > the "And as the start of the sentence. > Current: > And the SDES item provides a measurement identity reported in one or > more other block types, i.e.,a field for incorporation of an > application-specific auxiliary identifier, > Proposed: > The SDES item provides a field for an application specific auxiliary > identifier. > This identifier may be used to correlate data in XR Blocks within an > RTP session > with data from a non-RTP session. > > After this I would include you existing paragraph that reads, > > A RTCP Measurement Identity SDES packet MAY be associated with a set > of RTCP XR metrics blocks which share the same application specific > measurement identifier. > > Only at this point would I start including all the XR block specific > information, ordered as follows: > > The XR Report Block does not contain any measurement results > (metrics). Rather, > it provide information relevant to a measurement reported in one > or more other block types, including: > > o the sequence number of the first packet of the RTP session, > > o the extended sequence numbers of the first packet of the current > measurement interval, and the last packet included in the > measurement, > > o the duration of the most recent measurement interval and > > o the duration of the interval applicable to cumulative measurements > (which may be the duration of the RTP session to date). > > The method for calculation of the extended RTP sequence number is > provide in [RFC3550]. > > and > > The RTCP XR Report Block containing the measurement information is > intended to > provide a single copy of the information necessary to relate > measurement data in the RTCP XR blocks to the stream, and measurement > period, to which they refer. Commonly, multiple other small metric > blocks contain measurement data for the same stream and period, and > it would be a large overhead if all of these metric blocks carried > duplicated data for measurement identification. > > and > > The RTCP XR Report Block MAY be associated with a set of RTCP XR > metrics blocks which share the same information relevant to a > reported measurement. There MAY be several such sets in an RTCP > packet, in which each set share the same information relevant to a > reported measurement. There MAY also be RTCP XR blocks in the packet > which are not associated with a Measurement Information block, for > example blocks which were defined before the Measurement Identity and > information mechanism was introduced by this document. [Qin]: Okay. > > Other minor comments are as follows: > > Section 1.2 Performance Metric Framework > Current: > Metrics or the SDES item described in > this draft either reference external definitions or define metrics > generally in accordance with [RFC6390] and [MONARCH]. > Proposed: > The SDES item and XR Block described in this draft are in accordance > with > [RFC6390] and [MONARCH]. [Qin]: Okay. > Section 1.3 Applicability > s/to the measurement/to the measurements [Qin]: Okay. > Section 3 Measurement Identity SDES Item > s/format of Measurement/format of the Measurement [Qin]: Okay. > Section 3.1 APSI > Move the sentence, "This item MUST be ignored ...", to immediately > before the sentence, "The identifier is variable length." > The reason is that in its current location, it appears to be applicable > to the case where the length is zero, where really it is applicable > regardless of the length. [Qin]: Okay. > Section 4.2, Reserved 8 bits > The wording you have for the 16 bit reserved field is more complete, in > my opinion. I suggest reusing that wording here, changing the length > from 16 to 8 bits of course. [Qin]: Okay. > Section 4.2, Measurement Duration Cumulative and Interval > In both definitions, the word "receiver" is a bit ambiguous. Is this > meant to be the receiver of this XR block, or the receiver of the RTP > media stream that is now constructing and sending the XR Block? I think > it is the latter, but it would be good to clarify. [Qin]: Yes, It should be the the receiver who is the cosumer of the RTP media stream. I will change the "receiver" into "the receiver of the RTP media stream". > Section 6, Security Considerations > Current: > RTCP reports can contain sensitive information since they can provide > information about the nature and duration of a session established > between two or more endpoints. Therefore, the use of security > mechanisms with RTP documented in Section 9 of [RFC3550] should > apply. > Proposed: > RTCP reports can contain sensitive information, including > information about the nature and duration of a session established > between two or more endpoints. Therefore, the use of security > mechanisms with RTP, as documented in Section 9 of [RFC3550], apply. [Qin]: Okay. > Section 7.2 Informative References > Update reference to MONARCH. [Qin]: Okay. > Cheers, > Charles > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > xrblock mailing list > xrblock@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xrblock >
- [xrblock] recommendations for draft-ietf-xrblock-… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [xrblock] recommendations fordraft-ietf-xrblo… Qin Wu
- Re: [xrblock] recommendations fordraft-ietf-xrblo… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)