Current Meeting Report

2.8.1 User Services (uswg)

NOTE: This charter is a snapshot of the 52nd IETF Meeting in Salt Lake City, Utah USA. It may now be out-of-date. Last Modified: 09-Nov-01
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Description of Working Group:
The User Services Working Group of the IETF provides a regular forum for people interested in all levels of user services to identify and initiate projects designed to improve the quality of information available to users of the Internet. USWG's goals are:

1. Meet on a regular basis to consider projects designed to improve services to users.

2. Create working groups or other focus groups to carry out projects deemed worthy of pursuing.

3. Provide a forum in which user services providers can discuss and identify common concerns.

4. Take on work to update existing FYI documents when that work does not coincide with the scope of an existing Working Group.

This is an active, on-going working group in the USV area of the IETF. It is the spawning ground for establishing other working groups in this area.

Goals and Milestones:
Nov 99   Submit I-D to update FYI 1 to IESG for publication as an Informational RFC.
Nov 99   Submit I-D to update FYI 7
Mar 00   Submit I-D to update FYI 17
Aug 00   Submit I-D to update FYI 7 to IESG for publication as an Informational RFC.
Nov 00   Submit I-D to update FYI 17 to IESG for publication as an Informational RFC.
Request For Comments:
RFC1150 F.Y.I. on F.Y.I.: Introduction to the F.Y.I. notes
RFC1207 Answers to Commonly asked ``Experienced Internet User'' Questions
RFC1462 FYI on ``What is the Internet?''
RFC1594 FYI on Questions and Answer Answers to Commonly asked ``New Internet User'' Questions
RFC2664 FYI on Questions and Answers Answers to Commonly asked New Internet User Questions
RFC3160 The Tao of IETF - A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force

Current Meeting Report

User Services Working Group (USWG)
IETF - Salt Lake City, UT - Dec. 2001

Recorded by April Marine.

The USWG had a simple agenda this session:

o USV Area Update
o Update of FYI 7
o Other Business - Future of WG

USV Area Update

Since the User Services Area has shrunk to just the User Services Working Group and since the IETF goal in general is fewer rather than more WGs/Areas and since the Area Director's term is up in March 2002, the IESG has decided to move the USWG into the General Area and dissolve the User Services Area. This will be done at the IESG transition in March 2002.

The pending draft-hoffman-what-is-ietf-*.txt has been approved by the IESG and is in the RFC Editor's queue.

Discussion of draft-ietf-uswg-fyi7-00.txt

The bulk of the time was taken up with a detailed discussion of the draft of the update to FYI 7. See Ray Plzak's slides for an overview of the structure of the discussion. Detailed notes were sent to the list. Ray and Walt Houser (via email to Ray) agreed to do some rewrites based on the feedback. Ray has a schedule where, conservatively, this could go to RFC by the summer IETF.

Other Business

What is future of the group? Is it needed at all? The people attending felt it was useful to have a user focus somewhere in the IETF. (However, few people attended :). Susan Harris agreed to help April with an updated charter for WG review and comment.

Some ideas people had for work items: Security was a favorite topic in various flavors. Particularly, how to behave in a wireless network environment--what to watch out for, do's and don't's, etc. Another was privacy preferences and the options for dealing with sites various privacy policies. Also mentioned was an overview of networking via various access points other than a traditional computer, e.g. PDAs, phones, etc., especially regarding the security implications of doing so.

Some votes to go through all the FYIs and see if they need updating. This was kind of started awhile ago. Might resurrect the update to FYI 1.

One idea of to discuss the robustness of the net. What are the "real" dangers to the infrastructure? Viruses? Take down of nodes? A dose of reality in light of recent events.