crisp@conference.ietf.jabber.com - 2002/11/19
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[17:42] <mrose> meeting will start in a few minutes
[17:44] <mrose> chair: agenda bash
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[17:45] <mrose> chair: milestone & charter review will occur at the end of the meeting
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[17:46] <mrose> chair: looking for a scribe, george has agreed!
[17:46] <mrose> chair: a round of applause for george!!!
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[17:47] <mrose> chair: let's talk about the evaluation process
[17:48] <Michael> requirements document basis of evaluation
[17:52] <mrose> chair: hum now if you think separating the service and protocol requirements are a good idea
[17:53] <mrose> chair: concensus.
[17:55] <mrose> chair: discussion of possible strategies for evaluation
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[17:58] <Michael> :
[17:58] * Michael
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[18:06] <Michael> the comment is made that if we keep this pace up we'll be able to still see tonight's episode of Smallville....
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[18:55] <leslie> Anyone on here not in the room?
[18:59] <Michael> I'm curious who argc is....
[19:00] <argc> me?
[19:00] <Michael> yea.....
[19:00] <argc> dont u like argv more? lol
[19:00] <Michael> hehehe.... I was impressed I could join with a nick of "char **argv"
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[19:15] <leslie> For those not in the room...
[19:16] <leslie> Andy is going through the proposed changes in the requirements document, discussed on the list
[19:16] <leslie> Current issue under discussion: authentication distribution
[19:17] <leslie> John Klensin expressed a concern that the specific proposed rewording ("The service should alow the participation by an Internet registry in federated, distribued authentication system of their choosing) is getting too far away from protocol and too far into policy
[19:18] <leslie> Ted Hardie reminds the room that earlier in the evening we agreed that the document should be clearer in its expression of requirements on protocols (expressed with RFC2119 "MUST" caps) and comments on services that might use the protocol
[19:19] <leslie> Now looking at 3.2.3 Domain Registrant Search
[19:22] <leslie> Rick Wesson: brought up the concern with the original phrasing; that it seemed to require an undue load on small servers
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[19:30] <leslie> None of the proposed changes seem right; further discussion necessary.
[19:32] <leslie> On to 3.2.5 Nameserver search
[19:33] <leslie> Should it be removed, or modified to refer to data mining coping section
[19:34] <leslie> And anyone hanging out *in* the room should feel free to add to my blather, otherwise, why are we all here? ;-)
[19:35] <leslie> 3.2.11 query settlements
[19:37] <leslie> Options: add the requirement; declare it out of scope, or ...
[19:39] <leslie> specify the use of crisp-transparent transaction tokens
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[19:40] <leslie> not a lot of feelign for or against in the room
[19:41] <leslie> Rick: proposes that a more fully-developed proposal to the lsit
[19:42] <Michael> although Rick is the only person raising objections....
[19:42] <leslie> Eric Hall: settlements to a single server is a separate protocol, separate service
[19:42] <leslie> Andy: but it has implications for the work here
[19:44] <leslie> Rick: originally brought up the settlements idea in the context of trying to address his concern with inequitable load in a query distro context
[19:45] <Michael> humming: agree to revisit once we get a better idea about distributed queries...
[19:46] <leslie> It is put off until we get through the distributed queries
[19:47] <Michael> now we do milestone's bashing
[19:48] <leslie> Ted is rebooting
[19:48] <leslie> Or, he claims, it is his computer.
[19:49] <Michael> ted needs to clean up his desktop....
[19:49] <leslie> sidebar on the merits of tops-20...
[19:50] <Michael> and the fact that only 3 people in the room ever used it.
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[19:50] <leslie> Ted proposes moving the requirements doc to Jan 03
[19:51] <leslie> Ted didn't like the tone of the hum; we retry a happy hum
[19:51] <Michael> it was a happy hum....
[19:51] <Michael> although someone back here did a raspberry instead.....
[19:52] <leslie> Proposing moving protocol milestone to Feb 03 -- versions of the documents that comply with the requirements
[19:52] <leslie> or at least describe the protocol in enough detail that we can begin the process of analysis -- which protocol do we go with
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