simple@conference.ietf.jabber.com - 2002/11/18


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[13:38] <Mealling> I get the feeling that most folks in simple won't be using jabber... ;-)
[13:38] <mrose> cynic!
[13:39] <Mealling> <--- realist
[13:40] <Mealling> btw, suggestion for future versions of xml2rfc: if a document is standards track then the document should not parse if it doesn't have a security and IANA considerations section.....
[13:41] <mrose> agenda at http://www.softarmor.com/simple/meets/ietf55/agenda.html
[13:41] <mrose> mealling: jabber me directly at mrose@jabber.dbc.mtview.ca.us - thanks!
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[14:24] <fluffy> does this work
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[14:26] <fluffy> Does not seem to be much trafic here - but I think this is somehwat interesting - I am sending this message from a SIMPLE cleint than is going to a jabber gateway
[14:26] <Mealling> it seems to.....
[14:27] <fluffy> Thanks for the ACK
[14:27] <Mealling> I was wondering how many simple people would be using jabber....
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[14:27] <TonyHansen> which simple client are you using?
[14:27] <Mealling> I'm using a jabber client.....
[14:28] <fluffy> MSN Messenger
[14:28] <Mealling> <--- not a 'simple' person.....
[14:28] <paul.knight> Using jabber here too
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[14:29] <paul.knight> (from the idr meeting, which has no activity)
[14:30] <Mealling> I don't buy the whole idea of you only ever having one AOR....I know that I'll at least have two (one for work and one for home)
[14:30] <fluffy> Paul K is certaily not sugesting that you would only have a single AOR
[14:31] <Mealling> sorry, it was a left over from ENUM during last session.....
[14:31] <Mealling> i.e. discussion of subtypes for the sip enumservice.....
[14:31] <fluffy> oops - sorry - it sort of fit into the current conversation in the WG meeting
[14:31] <hildjj> for those of us that aren't SIMPLE guri, AOR == ?
[14:32] <Mealling> Address of Record
[14:32] <fluffy> Address Of Record (sort of like an email address)
[14:32] <hildjj> ah.
[14:32] <hildjj> so, in the xmpp world, i have multiple of those all the time.
[14:32] <Mealling> but meant to be more logical than an address of a particular device or end point....
[14:33] <Mealling> i.e. you use the service resolution aspects of sip to ask a sip server for an contact address for a given AOR....
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[14:35] <TonyHansen> I tend to think more in tems of having a single AOR, but having multiple sets of permissions for use at different times (at home, at work)
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[14:36] <lgf> there are 6 of us here
[14:36] <Mealling> but a single AOR assumes that the domains for that AOR will allow you to do that.... I know for a fact that I will have a mmealling@verisign.com AOR that will explicitly not allow me to tell it to tell you about my home telephone for security reasons.... one AOR assumes that the owner of the domain isn't hostile to you or other servers....
[14:36] <lgf> there r six here
[14:37] <Mealling> logger is a bot....
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[14:56] <jiri> Is there anyone willing to volunteer as Jabber scribe?
[14:56] <TonyHansen> I take horrible notes
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