Last Modified: 2005-10-04
16NG BoF 05 mins: Agenda bashing, chairs (5 mins) Chair: agenda bashing, blue sheets, jabber scribe... 15 mins: An Introduction to IEEE 802.16(e), H. Tschofenig 15 mins: WiMAX Forum NWG Overview, P. Yegani 05 mins: IEEE 802.16 and NETLMM Overview, J. Kempf 05 mins: IPv6 depolyment over IEEE 802.16, Y. Kim IPv4 WiBro is service starts in 2006. IPv6 will be within a year afterwards. There are still unclear implications of IP over WiBro, and IETF efforts will be a good reference for WiBro deployment. Data rates and distances for WiBro ? WiBro1: 2 Mbps, 60 Km/h, cells of 1~2 Km radio, micro mobility is an issue Wibro2: 100Mbps, up to 100 Km/s Bernard: which CS ? IP CS 10 mins: Transport of IP over IEEE 802.16, J. Mandin Lots of discussion of how Ethernet CS is simpler to understand 10 mins: Scenarios and Considerations of IPv6 in IEEE 802.16, M. Shin Dino Farinacci: one suggestion: define an IP MULTICAST CS Bernard: if ETH CS is not used, this results in very complex stuff in which IPv6 won't work 10 mins: IPv6 NDP Implications in IEEE 802.16, S. Madanapalli Margaret, Eric and others: some discussion on IPv6 ND, the same problems may exist for IPv4 ARP as well. 10 mins: Fast Mobile IP Handovers over IEEE 802.16e, R. Koodli Mobility is not among the list of 16ng deliverables. 16ng will coordinate with related WGs such as MIPSHOP (FMIP6 over 802.16e) and MIP4 (FMIP4 over 802.16e). 05 mins: 16ng problem statements, J. Jee Current problem statements are as follows; IEEE 802.16(e) is different from 802.11 or 3G networks. Transmission of IPv6 packets over 802.16(e) is not specified yet. (PMTU, CID, NDP, Multicasting, etc) FMIP6 over IEEE 802.16e because of 802.16e link characteristics. IP multicasting and MBS interworking. 05 mins: Overview of proposed charter, chairs 25 mins: Charter discussion, chairs Dino: suggestions for charter to include L3 mcast issues like UDP mcast, IGMP suppression, Erik: include possibility of mcast CS Raj: do it in ipv6 WG IPv4/v6 Coordination should be done in this group. And IP multicast should be part of the charter. IEEE 802.16 IP CS and Ethernet CS are in scope for this group as they are covered by IP adoption. To sense what's happening on WiMAX, relevant documents should be accessible by IETF folks. 802.16-2004 standard is accessible, but not WiMAX. Margaret then carried out a series of straw polls Should the IETF have a WG in this area? YES: 56 NO: 2 How many would have time to work on this? 20, above Is charter ok? Yes: 21 No: 18 Both IP CS and Ethernet CS are considered ? YES Should this group work on IPv4 in addition to IPv6? Yes: 14 No: 8 Mark Townsley then added another question to the straw poll: Of the people who raised their hand for the WG, how many would be active: LOTS! (no number available) How many are also in 802.16?: 0 (Perhaps nobody was here because of the simultaneous WiMax meeting in Beijing.) How many participate in Wibro or Wimax?: In WiMax: 5-7 In WiBro: 5+11=16 BOF closed |