5 Agenda-bashing 5 IPR Trust Brian Carpenter 10 draft-ietf-ipr-rules-update Scott Bradner 10 draft-josefsson-ipr-rules-update Simon Josefsson 30 Open mike The central issue for the open mike session is the different philosophies between the two drafts. In particular, we wish for consensus on how much control the IETF should have over attempts to copy part of an RFC.