Mobopts --IETF 66-- 1. Introduction, document status, Rajeev, 5 minutes. first IRTF RFC -- RO enhancement document (in RFC's editor queue) New version of Mobile IPv6 location privacy document available unified L2 abstractions next RG item (alredy five revisions undergone) MobiArch Worshop announcement 2. Performance and Policy, Vijay Devarapalli, 20 minutes Gerardo: not sure the network does not want keep the best connectivity for the terminal, there is an overlapping in the interest of the terminal and of the network. Rajeev: the mobile view can be different from the network, this is exaclty the tussle we are trying to understand Rajeev: you have to face inconsistant policies when designing protocols Gerardo: domains sharing the same policies is quite hard, impact on the business model Eric: policies are not trasnferred Vijay: policies stored in the home network and are pushed to the access network Eeirc: some policies are static some are not Vijay: static policies do not change so often Thierry: NEMO case, mobile router, policies between mobile router and mobile nodes Gerardo: how you handle the traffic path, you need enforcement points, the policy enforcement could not be at access network level, policies have to transferred from an access router to another. Gateways might be required. Eric: what is the conclusion of the dicsussion? XX: MN has to follows decisions XX: QoS in the access network, what is next step? XX: challenges are there, translating into a good mobility user experience is a good step, good work 3. MIP - ULP interaction, summary, Vijay Devarapalli/Rajeev, 20 minutes Rajeev: which HoA to choose, is another problem XX: why do you change your home address? vijay: you want to use a different HA Rajeev: dynamic home addresses is one of the cases, location privacy is another Nishita: solution can different depending on the problem, should focus on the motivation Rajeev: you can have pseudo-home-address, if you change HoA then it might be exposed to it. The motivation comes from the fact that we do not know if there is an active session on a BU and we want to change the HoA. Wakigawa: how is the pseudo HoA? answer by Vijay solution is not straight forward Rajeev: we need to understand what can we do, how do we detect a connection is using the HoA? Gerardo: why the MN wants to change the HoA?(3041) 4. Network-Initiated Handovers, Performance and Policy, Telemaco Melia, 15 minutes 5. Transport protocol performance during mobility, Ryuji Wakikawa, 15 minutes XX: IP paging is a solution XX: any info about the network KDDI XX: Network some times has different paths, it is a closed network no detials are available Rajeev: things related to MIP, think about these two issues: network layer and transport layer Jouni: battery lifetime and paging, did you analyze the impact of sending icmp? wakigawa: not really, the terminal was plugged into the car 6. Link Characteristics Information conveyance, Jouni Korhonen, 15 minutes Rajeev: we need more input on this, we probably do not understand the area enough 7. SafetyNet, Henrik Petander, 15 minutes Rajeev: definetely of interest for the RG, let's follow up after the meeting 8. Location Privacy Solution update, Rajeev, 15 minutes Brief update due to lack of time 9. Network-based Mobility Support for Dual Stack Nodes Alex Petrescu: interest in the problem Gerardo: Netlmm charter does not include IPv4 10. Multicast and Mobility problem Statement update, Rajeev, 10 minutes.