Draft WIDEX Minutes, IETF 67 Recorded and edited by Dean Willis The WIDEX working group met at IETF 67 in San Diego, California on November 7, 2006 at 0900. The session was moderated by working group chair Dean Willis. Approximately 15 people attended. The pre-meeting agenda was modified by excluding discussion of the BEEP bindings work, as there are no currently open issues and the document has not been revised since the previous meeting. This left the following agenda: Topic Discussion Lead Status and Agenda Bash Chair Requirements Draft Vlad Stirbu Framework Vlad Stirbu W3C Work Dave Raggett Open Discussion Chairs Topic: Status: Noted that Requirements document review has been requested from Apps area review team. Dean Willis needs to follow up with review team leader Eric Burger to check on the status and get the review moving. Following that review, we expect to send the document to the IESG. All other milestones require adjustment. Topic: Requirements Draft led by Vlad Stirbu Slides presented and included in proceedings Vlad reviewed changes in the document since the -02 version. The room discussed the review process, and the chair noted general consensus that the WG does not believe it has adequate capacity to fully review the document prior to publication, and will need outside help for this and other documents unless the WG participation level changes. Topic: Framework led by Vlad Stirbu Slides presented and included in proceedings Vlad reviewed changes since previous version. Further updates to this document are contingent on W3C work, specially REXv2. Vlad reported that Dave Raggett estimates that REXv2 will be drafted by the end of the year. Consequenly, the chair estimates that the framework document could not be ready for IESG review earlier than March 2007. Area director Lisa Dusseault noted that the IESG is unlikely to approve the framework for Proposed Standard without a mandatory transport protocol. It was pointed out (by Clint Chaplin) that the working group will require external assistance with the technical review of the framework document, similar to that needed for the requirements document but probably with stronger technical review requirements as this document is significantly more complex than the requirements document. Topic: REX Update led by Vlad Stirbu Slides prepared by Dave Raggett presented and included in proceedings. Dave Raggett is now the editor for REXv2 in W3C and estimates that he will get the first draft out by the end of 2006. REXv2 is critical for WIDEX due to its inclusion of event message formats needed for our task. Vlad will post a link for the v1 document (although aces to W3C documents is not as open as IETF). Open Discussion followed. Chair polled room about WIDEX implementations. Two implementations appear to be going forward, one in a web-browser environment and one coded natively. A question was raised as to whether the WIDEX working group has the critical mass needed to complete standards-track work. There seemed to be a general consensus in the room that it does not. AD Lisa Dusseault suggested three alternatives: 1) Continue as is, which is risky without critical mass. 2) Finish the Requirements document as a working-group effort, conclude the working group, and proceed with Framework and bindings documents as Experimental track RFCS within the Apps area. 3) Finish the Requirements document as a working group effort, continue work, but postpone publication of Framework and other documents until the WG gets critical mass. This last option is seen as risky, because it might be hard to get critical mass in the absence of a published document. Conversation continued with an appearance of possible convergence on Option 2 or some variation thereof, but no conclusion was reached. The chair agreed to take this topic to the list for further discussion. Meeting concluded at 10:15 AM local time.