MOBOPTS -- Thursday session =========================== Agenda bashing L2 abstractions for L3 handovers, update, Koshiro M. listing the issues on the review of the draft question on how this work overlaps with 802.21, the feeling is that this work has gone its own way and started before the WG 802.21 the doc will be moved forward Aron Falk presented GENI (www.geni.net) - Ashutosh what is the relation with IETF, IRTF? - Aron Falk, the model is that each researcher can go and test his work, mobopts could potentially go and test its own protocol - Does this support active network research? - Aron there is a lot of stuff that is not active reasearch - Aron GENI is designed as facility to federate several resources, the idea is that as new hardware is available people will plug this to GENI and people could use Rajeev on the location privacy solution Update of the current draft - XXX is pHoA changing during a session? - Rajeev, yes it can change , there is no requirement why it should not change - Suresh, People in IETF wants to use per mobile node prefix - Rajeev We should Kilian presents the draft on cnlocprivacy - Rajeev I would like to scope the problem very well, your problem span multiple layers, better keep the focus on the problem statement - XXX are u assuming that the identity the mobile is public and bind to the HoA? - Kilian yes this is what I am saying - xxx what does it mean RO mode? - Ashutosh if you do sip where is the mapping between the SIP uri and HoA - Rajeev I think it is a valid problem, you want to use RO but you do not want to disclose your address Discovering HAor is a good starting point, from the MN should I care to disclose my identity to a CN or to an agent tha my provide trust? For this you need more information in boostrapping, Please comment on the mailing list Multicast Mobility problem statement - Rajeev we should address the L2 wireless issues - Suresh it means problems - Suresh we should leave the L2 multicast out - Rajeev we should address the wireless issues, it is good to have these considerations in the PS doc - XXX you could also enable non-multicast networks by carrying info over unicast - Ashutosh inter domain is better to separate, also would be nice to see experimental result - Ashutosh do you do ad hoc? - raj inter and intra doamin should be separated - rajeev think about doing IPTV over wireless - rajeev looks like there is a good consensus, the document got good reviews, we can adopt it as RG document Yoshi, MPA framework - rajeev send your comments on the Ashutosh presentation take comments on the mailing list Presentation on the NEMO, 802.21 testbed - Juan Carlos Switch command has changed name - How do you achieve NIST slide Rajeev, send on the mailing list .......... Thanks to Telemaco Melia for the minutes