[Thanks to Alain Durand for taking the minutes]

No presenters today, chairs will present all slides

Administrativia
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recharter/update reviewed with AD
External Liaison: talk to Scott Bradner for doc movement

Doc update
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Would like to move doc to standard track
RFC to PS

RFC1195, 2753, 2966, 3373, 3567, 3784, .... mailing list for details

Draft to PS
see mailing list for details

will not got to PS
see mailing list for rfc numbers
reason: no interop issues/BCP

may go to PS
draft-ietf-isis-igp-p2p-over-lan-06.txt

Issue with ISO: some doc modify operation on non IP networks
document affected:  point to point ops over lan, three way handshake

Question: will there be inter-operability reports: answer no, those are
BCP/Info docs, no bits onthe wire
[ED: there will be some interop reports for some documents as nec]

draft-ginsberg-isis-genapp-00.txt
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Issue: running out of TLV code point (limited to 255, 37 assigned),
while lots of app want to use TLV...
proposal: assign one TLV to use by all applactions: No additional TLV
codepoint required ever! (;-)) and use sub-TLV for apps
discuss on ML if sub-TLV need to be reserved
Note: dampening is required
read the draft: 8-10
should become wg item: 1
should not become a wg item: 2
continue discussion on the mailling list

draft-bhatia-manral-crypto-req-isis-01
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clear text and MD5, security wants to move to something better like SHA1
would not like to change the IS-IS spec but the security/authentication spec
Issue with algorithms mandatory to implement
new terminology:
SHOULD+, MUST-, MAY+
to indicate that in the future the status might change
Tony li: some of the language in the draft is still inflamatory. Some
people using MD5 might be offensed
Dward: we can take out the strong language by not accepting this
document
Chairs: there are no request by the authors to make this a wg document
show of hands of those who think we need a security doc at all: no one

draft-ietf-isis-hmac-sha-01.txt
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recent reports of attacks using collision on MD5
details in slides
Tony Li and Ran Atkinson have a similar draft of using hash:
draft-li-isis-hmac-shs-01
Tony Li and Ran Atkinson to sync up with authors
Take this to the mailing list

Tony Li: agreement with IANA
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we have permission to add code point for IS-IS
we have all code point except for authentication TLV