MMOX BOF Minutes
IETF 74, San Francisco, CA, USA
March 24, 2009

Eric Burger, Scribe
Jabber: Mark Atwood

Chairs:
Meadhbh Hamrick (a.k.a. Infinity Linden)
Barry Leiba


Agenda:
DISCUSSION OF TECHNICAL PROPOSALS
 - less (Jon Watte)
 - llsd + ogp (Mark Lentczner, a.k.a. Zero Linden)
 - vp-identity (Heiner Wolf)

Discussion:
James Kemp, Ericsson, looked at reducing lag on wireless networks; very poor protocol
Lots of what you are looking for is done today with SIP

EKR: But what is the problem to solve?
Lots of problems, seems like large ocean to boil

Jeff Hodges: Needs to be a consideration at the protocol level for policy enforcement (what can and cannot leave a realm)

Meadhbh: No consensus on list for problem scope; some think we know what to work on, others disagree.



CONCEPTS 
 - architecture models (Meadhbh Hamrick)
 - security (David Levine)

Ekr: What are semantics?  What is the threat model?
James Kemp: What's the architecture? What is the system model?


general discussion / q + a 

Dave Crocker: Find something really small to solve and solve it.
Hgs: what are we talking about?

Eric Burger: What is "it"?  What are we trying to do here?
David Levine: Experience of multiple people in different places at the same time sharing an experience in a virtual immersive space.

Stuart Cheshire: Who will implement these protocols?  Will anyone actually implement it?
Meadhbh: Create open source simulation servers.


Lisa (AD): Is this research?  A few hands go up.  Is this not research?  About half the room.
Who would work on OGP?  About 10.  Who would want to change it?  About 1.
Who would work on identity?  About 20.
Who thinks we need to better formulate the problem?  Everyone.


CHARTER BASHING
Well, really scope discussion
Spencer: what about exploratory groups?

Stuff to do (Lisa)
Interconnecting IM, Voice, identities between virtual worlds
Standards for avatars
URI's for getting to places in/at virtual worlds

next steps