Meeting

Email Address Internationalization (EAI) WG minutes

Meeting: IETF 77, Monday, March 22, 1740 - 1940
Chair: Xiaodong Lee
Minutes: Joseph Yee


Blue Sheet, Scribe
	- scriber: Joseph Yee


Agenda Bashing
	- none


Doc Status update
	- draft-ietf-eai-pop became RFC 5721 in February 2010
	- draft-ietf-eai-umap-utf8 became RFC 5738 in March 2010
	- draft-ietf-eai-downgrade-display in RFC Ed Queue
	- draft-ieft-eai-mailinglist in AD Evaluation
		- need proto write up by non editor
		- Pete Resnick volunteered to shepherd the document to last call

	
Downgrade Discussion
	- Downgrade Design Team (DDT) formed, and made recommendation to group
	- results and presentation by Jiankang Yao
	- The principle of DDT results is to rule out the declared address pairs and propose the “no fallback” address
	- fall back mechanism, if discussed, will be discussed independently from the core standard track documents.
	- discussion on encoding, scenarios on submission end and delivery end


Discussion and Raising Hands on Downgrade Design Team report
	Original
	- That we immediately recharter EAI to focus on the core standards track documents, i.e., RFC4952bis, RFC5335bis, RFC5336bis, RFC5337bis, RFC5721bis, and the in-progress drafts.
	- RFC5504 should be deprecated. The core documents will not rely on fallback or downgrade techniques, particularly by relays.
	- Discoverable fallback addresses may be investigated independently of the core documents. Any such work would be part of, or connected to, an optional MUA/submission protocol, independent of the core transport documents.
	
	Reworded
	- "Does the WG support moving forward on the standards track with the core documents (4952bis, 5335bis, 5336bis, 5337bis, 5721bis and the in- progress drafts) while dealing with necessary end-point 7-bit header interoperability, but omiting support for in-transit downgrading or alt-addresses?"
	
	Result
	- most say yes, no visible objections in the room
	
	** Anyone who disagrees should note that on the mailing list and explain why ASAP **


New Chairs
	- many thanks to Harald Alvestrand and Xiaodong Lee
	- new chairs: John Klensin, Joseph Yee


Re-charter discussion
	- new SMTP-extension name needed
	- may need new MIME message subtype for 'global'
	- Chris Newman recommended a submission protocol extension, can be experimental
	- Re-charter wording and deliverables reviewed	
	- New charter draft to be posted for review