OPS-AREA Open meeting minutes (based on notes taken by Linda Dumbar) Area Directors and Meeting Chairs: Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica agenda: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/opsarea.txt meeting-materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/82/materials.html#wg-opsarea The meeting was hold in a common session with the OPSAWG. DateAndTime: TUESDAY, November 15, 2011 0900-1130 Morning Session I - Combined with OPSAWG 1. Note well, agenda bashing, note takers, blue sheets, 2 min 2. Next Generation Mobile Networks (NGMN) requirements on Next Generation Converged Operations Requirements (NGCOR)- Scott Mansfield, 10 min. * Liaison IETF received from NGMG group. * The real reason is that I have been involved in this since July. And found this. * They created NGMN. To prioritize the work in other industry fora and SDOs to align requirements in the area of converged O&M requirements. The MGMN has held several meetings * IETF is the ?federated Model? between Element & Network Abstraction and EMS-Layer * MGMN is to create a new standard body for harmonize all the SDOs. Bert: I would call it ?spaghetti? model. I really don?t see the coordination. Question is: how to guarantee it is just lump of everything. Scott: I am not sure. Just want more people to review. Chris: I know a lot of big operators are pushing for this. But there are more EMS than NE. Ron: this is similar eTOM model. Does anyone in the room know this model? Dan: Question is how should we proceed on this? Scott: I can send the Core document to the group. Dan: please do send the documents or pointer to the mail list 3. Power Locators - Bruce Nordman, 10 min https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nordman-power-locator/ * Complex buildings have many circuits and many individual devices * Knowing location needed for monitoring and control Algorithm * Begin reading all submeters synchronously at fixed intervals * Request target device to enter locator mode with identical timing * Analyze meter data until signal is visible in one (or more) meter(s) * Terminate locator mode Locator request details * Bitmap of signal (and length) * Period * Duration 4. Open microphone: no issues were raised