TRILL Working Group Agenda v1 Chairs: Erik Nordmark (Arista), Donald Eastlake 3rd (Huawei) Secretary: Jon Hudson (Brocade) Date: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 Facility: Hyatt Regency Hotel, Vancouver, British Columbia Room: Plaza C Time: 15:50 - 17:20 Minutes by Jon Hudson. [Times given below are the scheduled amount of time, not the amount of time actually taken.] 4 min. Administrativia (scribes etc.), Agenda Bashing, Chairs =============================================================== 12 min. Document Status, Review of Milestones, Chairs Donald Eastlake (Co-Chair, Huawei): Directory Assistance is a few weeks from RFC The New Charter in Place. Proposed new milestones based on the recently revised TRILL WG Charter were presented. It was announced that Sue Hares has volunteered to coordinate a TRILL implementation report. Erik Nordmark (Co-Chair, Arista): Sue will depend on all of you to send into her your reports on deployments, implementations and issues. Sue will then help turn that into a WG doc that can then be added to over time. ZTE_Guy: I want to ask a question about active/active. Is the milestone goal for Active/Active Solution or Requirements? Donald: Solution Chairs: Can we discuss this later due to presentations on the topic occurring later in this meeting. 6 min. TRILL OAM Status Update ================================ Tissa Senevirathne, Tal Mizrahi, Deepak Kumar draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-00 draft-ietf-trill-loss-delay-00 draft-deepak-trill-oam-mib-01 Presentation created by Tissa and delivered by Donald. Base OAM Requirements is out as RFC 6905 Several OAM drafts at different stages Need reviews for MIB Draft A call for working group adoption of draft-deepak-trill-oam-mib was started. 10 min. Directory Assisted Edge, Linda Dunbar, Donald Eastlake =============================================================== draft-dunbar-trill-scheme-for-directory-assist-06 draft-eastlake-trill-ia-appsubtlv-03 draft-dunbar-trill-directory-assisted-encap-04 Presentation Changes to in RED (Super Helpful) Push/Pull Directory discussion. Hao Weiguo (Huawei): I think it better provide this itself. Donald: Currently there is some feeling is that specifically the L3 learning aspect, perhaps all of Sections 4 and 5, should be split out into a separate draft. Donald: We will start a 2.5 week call for adoption starting soon to move scheme-for-directory-assist and ia-appsubtlv foreword. [This was erroneous. As corrected below, a call for working group adoption was issued a while ago.] 8 min. RBridge Channel Tunnel Protocol, Donald Eastlake ========================================================= draft-eastlake-trill-channel-tunnel-00 Presentation This will permit typed message passing. One hop primarily for things like BFD Native channel frame does not use the TRILL header Lucy Yong (Huawei): Does the old channel methods still work? Donald yes! A 2.5 week call for adoption as a WG draft of draft-eastlake-trill-channel-tunnel was started. 10 min. TRILL Active-Active Update, Radia Perlman ================================================== 10 min. Control Plane Req. for TRILL Active/Active, Mingui Zhang draft-zhang-trill-active-active-cp-req-00 Presentation given [Active-Active Update. The second presentation on Control Plane Requirement was not given due to lack of time.] Ari: (Spelling?) What exactly is being flooded and when? Radia Perlman (Intel): No, only normal flooding will occur. No additional flooding is needed. Ari: What do you mean "if it changes" it's mind. Donald: like "Flip MAC Flopping" Erik: Except not based on MAC Thomas Narten (IBM): I think some of these are mandatory, not a "nice to have" Radia: yes, I think we all agree. I just wanted to get the list going of targets. ZTE_guy: I do not think we should require current silicon support. Radia: in light of time we really should hold off discussion till the end. ZTE_Guy: I like this, it's simple. Donald: We only have about 15 min left. Does anyone want to get together to discuss active/active after the WG meeting? Group: YES! There are about 9 of us. 10 min. Resilient Trees, Mingui Zhang ====================================== draft-zhang-trill-resilient-trees-04 Presentation Given. Ali: Have you done any snapshot testing to scaling? We need to see what the protocol can do outside of the vendor implementation. Donald: I don't believe so ZTE_Guy: [Could not tell what he said.] Mukhtiar Shaikh (Brocade): How do you determine the backup path? ZTE_Guy: We will propose a algorithm for automatic selection. It was announced that, based on a call for WG adoption started a while ago, the resilient-trees draft has been adopted as a TRILL WG draft. 10 min. Smart End Nodes, Fangwei Hu ==================================== draft-perlman-trill-smart-endnodes-02 The last presentation given was on Smart End Nodes and a 2.5 week call for adoption as a WG draft of draft-perlman-trill-smart-endnodes was started. 4 min. Wrap-Up, Chairs ======================== Agreement to meeting tomorrow at 5:30pm to discuss active/active. The location will be announced on the TRILL WG mailing list. End of Minutes.