IETF 89 - ISIS Minutes Scribe: Acee Lindem - acee.lindem@ericsson.com WG Chair: Chris Hopps, Hannes Gredler * Status - Chris Hopps (See Slides) - 1 new RFCs (RFC 7142) - 5 WG documents (3 Active, 1 WG Last Call, 1 Submitted for Publication * IS-IS Extended Sequence Number - Albert Tian (See slides) - Comments all addressed - many incorporated into 02 version. - Ready for WG Last Call * Advertising Per-Node Tags - Chris Bowers (See slides) - Node level rather than existing Link Level (RCF 5305) - Node Level rather than exiting Prefix Tag (RFC 5130) - Unbounded list of 32-bit tags in TLV Robin Li: What is the usage? Chris: LFA backup path policy for selection, Identify rLFA targets that support targeted LDP sessions. Robin: Automesh is also concept of color for who will join the mesh group. Chris: Are you suggesting auto-mesh as an application of this draft? Robin: No - Automesh has an existing way. Les Ginsberg: Are you using the same examples as OSPF? Chris: Yes. Les: Why don't you use common tag or bit for well-known applications. Chris: The SPs would rather leave it flexible even if they have to configure it. Les: So the tags will have separate meanings per node? Chris: rLFA needs to be able to exclude nodes with a certain tag. Les: You're not defining what paths are red paths? Hannes: For example, please try all LFAs for which there is no red node on the path. Chris: May not support low bandwidth on links of colored node. Les: Is the prefix tag name space separate? Chris: Yes Acee: Alternate is IANA registry for well-known applications. Eric Yu: 64 tags in OSPF while in ISIS it is unbounded? Chris: OSPF tags go into single instance RI LSA and have bounded length. Eric: How do I cancel a tag? Hannes: Send an LSP with a higher sequence number. Anton Smirnov: Difference is OSPF RI LSA is a single instance LSA. Applications are just examples which may or may not be be implemented and are not mandatory. * ISIS Autoconfiguration - Leo Liubing (See Slides) - See slides for changes from 01 version Chris Hopps: Was on honeymoon last meeting. Are operators now wanting to connect their IS-IS networks to the home? BT Guy: Not home network environment. It is about zero configuration. Ian Farrer: Very similar function in IEEE for SPB. There will be a BCP for SPB (Shortest Path Bridging). Les Ginsberg: Need to look at it in the framework of not being in the home. Two cases of system ID duplicate resolution. You need to also cover the case of a conflict with your neighbor prior to adjacency formation. Leo: MAC address duplication is a problem that cannot easily be solved. Les: You could have multiple interfaces and choose a different MAC for system ID than the interface on the link. Les: OSPF targets small networks. ISIS targets larger networks for autoconfiguration (e.g., TRILL). Leo: Homenet decided not to support multiple IGPs? Les: Strong support for single routing protocol. Chris: May not need in ISIS as well. Gregory Cauchie: ISIS was not chosen but there were many in Homenet who were undecided and the final Homenet protocol has not been decided. Ian Farrer: Need to get work in front of Homenet. Chris Hopps: Doesn't seem ready yet for work group adoption, need to sync up with other efforts and see if homenet even wants it. * ISIS Advertisement of Global Labels - Xiaohu Xu (See slides) Hannes: Conflict with authors of ISIS Segment Routing draft? Have you been able to resolve? Xiaohu: Uses different TLVs? Hannes: Difference is that this draft uses existing TLV with tweaked semantics, like the high metric. Xiaohu: Uses global labels rather than label indexes as well. Acee: Differences in SPRING Arch should be debated in SPRING as opposed to via IGP encodings in the IGP WGs. * ISIS Advertisement of Entropy Label Capability - Xiaohu Xu (See slides) Hannes: Curtis made comment that the ELC property is a link label property rather than a node property. Xiaohu: RFC 6790 says all interfaces should support entropy label processing rather than a mix of those supporting and not supporting. Stephane Litkowski: Why not use capability bit rather than new TLV? Xiaohu: You could. Chris: Should work out in SPRING. * ISIS Extensions for MPLS Multi-Topology - Robin Li (See slides) Acee: So the gist of the last slide is that global label is needed beyond segment routing? Robin: I think so. Alia: It would be Good to see the architecture differences presented in the SPRING WG. Will there be requirements for this MPLS Multi-Topology? Chris: Any comments on other drafts? Hannes: See you in Toronto.