IETF 90 - kitten Working Group Minutes ====================================== Location: IETF 90, Toronto, Ontario, Canada (Fairmont Hotel) Room: Salon A Time: 2014-07-23 0900-1000 Co-Chairs: Sam Hartman Shawn Emery Josh Howlett Area Director: Stephen Farrell Secretary: Simon Josefsson Scribe: Matt Miller Jabber Channeler: Alexey Melnikov Jabber Log: https://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/kitten/2014-07-23.html Audio Recording: http://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf90/ietf90-salonb-20140723-0900-am1.mp3 Action Items ============ Alexey and Shawn: gssapi-extensions-iana: meet on Thursday to work through registrations Chairs: krb-wg-pkinit-alg-agility: No volunteers to move it forward. Chair(s) to talk with AD on how to progress it. Chairs: kitten-iakerb: No volunteers to move it forward. Chair(s) to talk with AD on how to progress it. Miller: sasl-oauth: Matt Miller to review and comment on the list. Chairs: gss-loop: WGLC to be started in a couple of weeks. Chairs: channel-bound: Chair will talk to document editor on document status offline. Alexey and Chairs: gs2bis: Alexey Melnikov to review gs2bis. Chairs to talk to Simon offline with regards to Nico's comments. Sam and Pete: rfc6112bis: Sam and Pete to discuss offline and summarize results on the list. Chairs: rfc5653bis: Chair to discuss with document editor on if the document is ready for WGLC. Chairs: rfc4402bis: Chairs to work out the document shepherd and move forward with WGLC. Chairs: AES-SHA2: Chairs will work on the shepherd writeup and progress this. WG and Chairs: CAMMAC: Several to review in the next few weeks. Chairs to reach out to implementers on their plans. Conference Session ================== 1. Preliminaries 2. Active WG Items 2.1 gssapi-extensions-iana Actions: * 2 or 3 to meet on Thursday to work through registrations Alexey Melnikov: The plan was not to register everything in all documents, but to register a 1-2 examples for each registry. And have someone actual verify the registry is complete. Shawn Emery: Will this happen soon? AM: I recommend 2 or 3 of us get together and work through a couple this week (Thursday). Sam Hartman: so people who could definitely do [gss iana]: tlyu, Luke Howard, myself, Simo, Shawn, Love, Nico. You can twist my arm offline for a couple of registrations. 2.2 sasl-saml-ec 2.3 krb-wg-pkinit-alg-agility Actions: * No volunteers to move it forward. Chair(s) to talk with AD on how to progress it. 2.4 kitten-iakerb Actions: * No volunteers to move it forward. Chair(s) to talk with AD on how to progress it. Ben Kaduk: We should make a list of all the things we need volunteers for, so people can prioritize at the end and pick which ones they want to do. I'd be interested in doing this, if nothing more interesting comes up after it. Leif Johansson: You should reach out to Thomas or Johann (sp?) since they have deployed code. 2.5 sasl-oauth Actions: * Matt Miller to review and comment on the list. 2.6 gss-loop Actions: * WGLC to be started in a couple of weeks. Ben Kaduk: I think this is ready for WGLC. SE: I don't want to do a lot of WGLC at the same time, but hopefully we can start this in a couple of weeks. 2.7 channel-bound Actions: * Chair will talk to document editor on document status offline. 2.8 gs2bis Actions: * Alexey Melnikov to review gs2bis. * Chairs to talk to Simon offline with regards to Nico's comments 2.9 rfc6112bis Actions: * Sam and Pete to discuss offline and summarize results on the list. SH: I'm waiting to hear back from Pete Resnick on a process issue. Ready for WGLC after we resolve the question about how to progress. SH: The process issue is that the description of how Pete says to handle references in something going for internet standard is inconsistent with my reading of the BCPs. I think the IESG may be making mistakes here. Stephen Farrell: I think Pete and Sam can bang this out and summarize on the list. 2.10 rfc5653bis Actions: * Chair to discuss with document editor on if the document is ready for WGLC. 2.11 rfc4402bis Actions: * Chairs to work out the document shepherd and move forward with WGLC. BK: I believe the PRF test vectors have been verified to match between MIT and heimdal. I will try to verify the test vectors. 3. AES-SHA2 Updates * Actions: Chairs will work on the shepherd writeup and progress this. BK: I will try to verify the test vectors. 4. CAMMAC Updates Actions: * Several to review in the next few weeks. * Chairs to reach out to implementers on their plans. SH: I can review this within the next two days. BK: I reviewed the previous revision of the CAMMAC draft and had a few comments, that were fixed in the current version. As such, I think the current version is fine. Tom Yu: What would Shawn consider adequate review? ghudson: will make a close review of CAMMAC this week. SE: I do not want a repeat of previous times when reviews came in after drafts were published as RFCs. SE: Is anyone (beyond MIT) planning to implement this? ghudson: MIT krb5 will probably ship an implementation in a release in about 14 months. 5. Open Mic Stephen Farrell: Chair changes will be happening. Sam and Josh will be stepping down, and Matt Miller and Ben Kaduk will be stepping up. * Deserved applause for Sam and Josh *