Mile IETF 90 Administrative ---------------- The chairs Alexey Meinikov and Takeshi Takahashi opened the meeting and described the agenda. Jabber scribe: Adam Monteville Note taker: Roman Danyliw Draft-IETF-mile-5070bis-07 draft -------------------------------------- Presenter: Roman Danyliw Q: Kathleen Moriarty -- when will this work be done? A: Roman Danyliw -- targeting IETF 91 Q: Alexey Meinikov -- @lang tag is using an outdated reference A: Roman Danyliw -- noted. This definitely needs to be fixed during the internationalization review Draft-ietf-mile-enum-reference-format-07 draft ------------------------------------------------------ Presenter: Adam Montville Q: Roman Danyliw -- how do we want to integrate this with 5070bis? I would propose that a formal schema should be added so that it can be referenced by IODEF and SACM. A: Adam Montville -- yes, reuse with SACM would be helpful. A: Kathleen Moriarty -- yes, use across working groups is worth the delay to do this right A: Alexey Meinikov -- please provide a proposal to the list Draft-mile-implementionreport-00 --------------------------------------- Presenter: Daisuke Miyamoto Q: David Waltermire -- Does the usage guidance in this draft consider 5070bis? A: Daisuke Miyamoto -- Yes Q: (on jabber) Eric Burger -- what is the goal of the draft? A: Daisuke Miyamoto -- We provide these information in order to encourage wider adoption and usage of the IODEF. Q: (on jabber) Eric Burger -- would like to see an interoperability document A: Kathleen Moriarty -- Clarity needed. Some interop has already occurred and is documented in this draft. A: (on jabber) Eric Burger -- would like to see which implementation works with what other implementation. what's been tried? A: Alexey Meinikov -- We do not do any officialy interoperability testing in IETF, but lots of people participating the WG do testing in conjunction with WG. Q: (on jabber) Jacque Nipor -- how many CSIRTs will use this? A: Kathleen Moriarty -- subset covered in implementations report. RT extension by NATO too, but the information was provided last week. There are lots of uses. A: Eric Osterweil -- not too relevant if the work needs to be done A: (on jabber) Eric Burger -- to clarify, interested in knowing how many CSIRTs Draft-Murillo-Mile-Cps-00 ----------------------------- Presenter: Martin Murillo Q: David Waltermire -- some elements seem to be relevant to IT space. Perhaps certain fields should moved into 5070bis if it's generically applicable. A: Martin Murillo -- indeed, as a -00 draft it's a work in progress Q: David Waltermire -- It is interesting to see that perpetrating party is mandatory. We would see it optional. Is that likely to be shared? A: Martin Murillo -- perhaps not. I totally agree, and this is still work-in-progress. Q: Eric Burger -- concur with Waltermire's feedback Q: Eric Burger -- reuse classes such to ensure interoperability and adoption A: Martin Murillo -- yes, this needs to be examined A: Takeshi Takahashi --is the request to extend additional data or existing classes? A: David Waltermire -- potential both should be considered Q: Alexis -- what do you want from WG? A: Martin Murillo -- Need more collaborators and reviewers of the work Q: WG chair Alexey Meinikov asked WG is this something the IEFT should work on? A: 4-5 people raised hands A: Eric Osterweil -- we need more specific about what aspect of CPS will be addressed A: Chris Ignacio -- concur with Osterweil A: David Waltermire -- needs more exploration of the use cases WG chair Alexey Meinikov determined that the draft was not ready for consideration as a working group item Draft-Suzuki-mile-darknet-00 ---------------------------------- Presenter: Mio Suzuki Q: Roman Danyliw -- what do you see as the link between this draft and the MILE data formats? A: Mio Suzuki -- need to consider whether this is an IODEF extension Q: (on jabber) Eric Berger -- IODEF was been around for 6 years, why wasn't it used? A: Takeshi Takahashi -- this IETF presentation is an attempt to harmonize the activities Integration of Dynamic Automated Metadata Exchange into SAML 2.0 Web Browser SSO Profile -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Presenter: Stefan Metzger Draft-poehn-dame-01 Q: David Waltermire -- could you provide example of meta-data A: Stefan Metzger -- information about end point, certificates, confidentiality requirements Q: Roman Danyliw -- could describe the links with MILE protocols? A: Kathleen Moriarty -- exploratory presentation about where this fits in Security Area A: (on jabber) Eric Burger -- this can be used to understand RID end points