appsawg in ietf 91 Work summary (chairs; 5 mins) - Work completed since IETF 90 Published: - RFC7352: Sieve Email Filtering: Detecting Duplicate Deliveries - RFC7372: Email Authentication Status Codes - RFC7377: IMAP4 Multimailbox SEARCH Extension - RFC7386/RFC7396: JSON Merge Patch Merge patch published twice due to tabification issues. Barry: please tell the RFC Ed in a note if layout matters RFC Editor Queue: - draft-ietf-appsawg-acct-uri - draft-ietf-appsawg-authres-ptypes-registry - draft-ietf-appsawg-nullmx waiting for status code update RFC Awaiting Shepherd Action: - draft-ietf-appsawg-multipart-form-data Masinter: needs more review, concerned that text doesn't match existing implementations - draft-ietf-appsawg-uri-scheme-reg Alexey: actually, this is waiting for Barry to review. Some possible conflict with W3C work and URNBIS. Barry will hold the document until he believes that these are resolved. - Documents in progress and new work: - draft-ietf-appsawg-http-problem Last call coming soon - draft-ietf-appsawg-mdn-3798bis Alexey: waiting for feedback from implementers. Are action types removed really unused? How can we find out? Active Document Discussion - draft-ietf-appsawg-text-markdown and draft-seantek-text-markdown-use-cases (Sean Leonard; 15 mins) Family of lightweight formatting languages. Now two drafts, one for registration, one for describing specific dialects Proposes new simplified syntax/variant/output-type parameters Murray: do we have a mandate to publish the second ("dialects") document? Paul Hoffman: yes, not in appsawg Sean, Barry: keep first document short, add registrations of dialects later - Possibly Relevant work (not yet part of APPSAWG) - draft-greevenbosch-appsawg-cbor-cddl - draft-huang-appsawg-aipi-ps-uc - draft-singer-appsawg-mcast-url Proposed New Work - draft-martin-authentication-results-tls (Franck Martin; 10 mins) Franck: presents examples Chris Newman: why are per-hop things like cipher suite in A-R rather than Received? Orit: related to UTA work? Paul Hoffman: TLS is interesting hop by hop, could put info in Received Franck: would log this at the edge, not inside your network, could do it in either or both headers Eliot: please put it in one place Murray: take back to list - draft-greevenbosch-appsawg-cbor-cddl (Bert Greevenbosch; 10 mins) Bert: presents current version Murray: desired status? Sean Leonard: intersted, makes CBOR more useful, suggest syntax changes Murray: take to the list to see how much interest *** Apps Area general meeting APP Working Groups (various; 25 mins) - APPSAWG - CORE - DMARC - EPPEXT Jim Galvin: registry doc done. The main discussion in the WG this week: Should extensions be std track or info? - HTTPBIS - HYBI last draft in LC - JSON Matt Miller: two docs through LC. iJSON more work - PAWS Pete: mostly done, all docs done - PRECIS core, three profiles under discussion - SCIM pretty much done, LC on schema and API, discuss possible extensibility - URNBIS Leslie D: - UTA three docs mostly done, BCP through LC, new version coming. New work on use of TLS in specific protocols (e.g. email) - WEBSEC Nir: pretty much done - WEIRDS discusses to be respolved, otherwise done New Working Groups (various; 10 mins) - DPRIVE (DNS PRIVate Exchange) Tim W: make client-resolver queries private without changing protocol - DTN Delay Tolerant Networks Marc B: push IRTF DTN work into standards track - LIME (Layer Independent IAM Managemetn in the Multi-Layer Environment) - BESS (BGP Enabled Services) - TAPS (Transport Services) Barry: decouple protocols from transports, let specify what services they need - IANAPLAN (IANA/NTA Transition Planning) Leslie: LC on one work item, ends tomorrow. Tight external deadline. - CALEXT (Calendaring Extensions) Don Eastlake: have draft ready for LC, two other drafts in good shape - DMARC (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance) Tim Draegen: address interop issuess with DMARC and mail flows, break work into three phases - TZDIST (Time Zone Data Distribution Service) Eliot: have drafts, want to wrap up by next meeting BoF previews (various; 10 mins) - ACTN (Abstraction and Control of Transport Networks) - ANIMA (Autonomic Networking Integrated Model Approach) - I2NSF (Interface to Network Security Functions) Joe Saloway: existing industry work described at BoF - ARCMEDIA (Archive Top Level Media Type) Sean Leonard: first new media type in 17 years. for file archives, do we need it, what would we do for compression and other details, ... - DETNET (Deterministic Networking) - NETVC (Internet Video Codec) - BIER (Bit Indexed Explicit Replication) W3C update Mark Nottingham: html5 now published Needed a new URL spec, IETF and W3C didn't publish one. Sam Ruby is testing browsers to see what they really do with URLs, likely to become W3C spec, perhaps update RFC 3986 and a doc on how to preprocess text into URLs IESG changes Barry: reorg groups into different combinationa producing different areas. APPSAREA is not being shut down. SLIM: Selection language for Internet Media Randy Gellens: pick human language appropriate for a communication, particularly when you don't already have context address email and interactive calls (e.g. for emergency response) Microsoft image file formats: draft-seantek-image-bmp, draft-seantek-image-wmf-emf, draft-seantek-text-nfo Sean Leonard: BMP, WMF, EMF Roy: only register x-* forms, since they're what people use NFO a quaint little format for ancient blocks of PC text URLs and HTTP response forms for multicase - draft-singer-appsawg-mcast-url Ali Begen: present proposal Ted: related to RAI overlay work? Application Intelligent Policy Interface (AIPI) - draft-huang-appsawg-aipi-ps-uc Giorgio: presentation Pete R: sounds like TAPS, is there a set of applications that will really use this; QoS rarely works, apps always ask for everything