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What: Ops-Area
When: Thursday March 26th, 1520-1605
Where: Venetian

Ops-Area section
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Administrivia - scribes / minutes, etc.
Benoit / Joel
5 minutes

YANG Coordination
Benoit
10minutes

  Q: It does not standardize? (somebody)

  Q: it is a good thing. What is it for? what is comfortable model? Does
     it help operator? .. you can get topology model.  (Eric?)

     Erik Hoffmon - It is kind of cool to get a "what not to standardize"!
     Eric Voigt - Add what you're going to use it for
     Joel Jaeggli: The interface model for example has a lot of uses


l3sm  L3VPN Service YANG Model work - a possible new working group in ops and management.
Benoit / Joel
10 minutes

  C: That is RFC fasion. .. Makes more sense.
     I don't get proposed standard. (Eric?)


  Q?: Classification model. That's sounds good.  5 operators
      involved. I discourage library vendors. (Jason?)

    Erick Hoffman - I don't think we should be in the business of "certifying"
      If this is an RFC then it will show up in RFPs
      It needs a disclaimer; this is not the model it's a science experiment
    Benoit - not married to standards track
    Jason ? - sounds like the right group of people is operators...
      Make sure there a variety of vendors equipment is represented 


DOTS at OPSAWG
Kathleen Moriarty
10 minutes

  (Kathleen wasn't able to attend, so  Nick Teague did presentation)

  DOTS discussion - a way for on premisis DDoS device to communicate with upstream devices.
  Trying to raise awareness of the issues.

  Q: Erick - communicating inter-provider or internal.
  R: The idea is to open that up so that these boxes can communicate with each other.
  C: Erick - YANG model for DDoS?!


IETF 92 hackathon: NETCONF/ODL/I2RS
Jan Medved
10 minutes

   (No questioner)

Open Mic

   Kathleen, she in in agenda? (somebody)

   We did an experiment.  We standartionalized at IETF.  We are looking
   for feedback. We don't know experience. (somebody)

   Lee Howard - This was an experimentin deployment experience.

OPSAWG portion of the Joint Meeting
Starting at 4:03:05 PM local time for future audio archeology.

Document summary:
2 New RFCs
  RFC 7448 (draft-ietf-opsawg-mibs-to-ieee80231)
  RFC 7424 (draft-ietf-opsawg-large-flow-load-balancing)

7 Working Group Documents
  1 active
    draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-extension
  2 completed  WGLC
    draft-ietf-opsawg-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp
    draft-ietf-opsawg-vmm-mib
  1 is with the IESG
    draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel
  3 with RFC Editor
    draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-hybridmac
    draft-ietf-opsawg-coman-probstate-reqs
  draft-ietf-opsawg-coman-use-cases


IETF Helpdesk - Chris Grundeman
Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-opsawg-0.pptx

Comments:
  Brian Carpenter - The EDU team sort of invented a new initivae associated with short videos
  Lee Howard - even more people to whom we need to evangelize our products


CAPWAP Control and Data Channel Separation for Multi-provider Scenario
Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-opsawg-4.ppt

Comments:
  Warren - The ALT tunnel draft has finished WGLC and IETF
  Joel - dicussion of the possiblity of merging with CAPWAP ALT Tunnel.

Misc: 
 Nick Teague - was the dots presenter