####################################################################### Session: MILE Date: 5-April-2016 Time: 17:40 - 19:10 Lication: Quebracho A Notetake: Chris Inacio Jabber scribe: Adam Montville Attendees: 20-30 ca. Agenda and meeting material: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/95/agenda.html Jabber log: http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/mile/2016-04-05.html audio record: http://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf95/ietf95-quebrachoa-20160405-1730.mp3 ####################################################################### ## Working Group Chairs * Alexy is on his way out, Kathleen to name a replacement ## IODEF-bis ### Roman Danyliw * Alexy: going to attempt to get Apps Area review of XML * Take: info-leak: how do you represent that? + Roman: it's now free form text, not agreed upon impact + Waltermire: that's used on ROLIE, would need to have that + Roman: need to capture that issue ## ROLIE draft ### David Waltermire * Focus on creating alignment of ROLIE draft between MILE & SACM * Alexy: Are you going to become a co-editor? + Dave: yes, likely, possibly looking for more - more on that later * Roman: CSIRT removed from IODEF, replaced with Sec Org + Dave: would want to do that too in ROLIE * Roman: impact class still exists for system, and is extensible + Dave: okay, makes it easier * Volunteers for ROLIE draft + Adam Monteville * Take: Content Repository draft in SACM, how does this relate? + Dave: believe that's expired in SACM ## Implementation Report ### Daisuke Miyamoto * There are no other reports of implementations of IODEF * Chairs: Ready to ask for WGLC? + no objections ## XMPP draft ### Nancy Cam-Winget * Will post draft to MILE working group * Interested in possibly doing a hack-a-thon on XMPP GRID ## Guidance draft ### Mio Suzuki * Looking for more feedback and comments * Chair: Good to use this document to double check IODEF-bis ## Security alerts over the first MILE ### Robert Moskowitz * Robert: goal is to be resilient to things like DDoS and TCP outage + Nancy: SASL is used to provided strong auth, but control plane and data plane are separated + Nancy: TLS is used in the dataplane for communication * Nancy: XMPP has a lot of extensions to carry its data plane payload * Nancy: What problem is supposed to be get solved in MILE? ANIMA, 6tisch, i2nsf, etc. working on related areas - still not likely the right area. * Sue Harris (i2rs chair): might fit in i2nsf * Fleming Andreas: relationship to dots - unclear about relationship between DOTS and MILE? Why do DOTS requirements apply? + Robert: Where does information when an event happen come into MILE? An incident to deliver to MILE. + Fleming: DOTS comms may indicate some type of activity, but they may not be incidents + Dave W: examples? * Robert: TCP SYN events * Roman: Lot of requirements from other WGs being described, but need to state the MILE client/server requirements to judge this.